TFP Video: Bystander Rips Pro-Marriage Sign in Half


It's only a sign, thank goodness, but the brazenness with which the man appears to believe he has every right to behave in this way is disturbing:


  1. alvin m.
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    At least you didn't blame gay people for this, like SOME people did.

  2. Murphy
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    @Alvin Well... Why did he rip the banner then?

    Does he go around ripping signs? Not likely.

  3. Mike Brooks
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Weird. Such anger over a sign that says marriage is one man and one woman? This is bizarre, up-is-down behavior. It's like someone tearing up a sign that says, "Only men and women can reproduce."

  4. Maggie Gallagher
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    He's clearly a gay marriage advocate, his personal orientation is not known, that's what Alvin is saying I think.

  5. Earnest Bertram
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Well, you'd be mad enough to rip signs too if someone was denying you the right to marry the person you love.

  6. alvin m.
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Maggie, how do you know that he is a gay marriage advocate? No one knows why he attacked the group because it is not made clear.

  7. alvin m.
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    And then there is the claim by a member of the group that he got hit with a bottle and was bleeding. There is no blood.

  8. ConservativeNY
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    It is reasonable to presume that the guy who ripped the sign was a SSM advocate. There is a slim possibility that he wasn't, but I doubt it. Also, no one mentioned anyone "bleeding" in the video.

  9. Lisa
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    It's about time the rest of society starts seeing these people for whom they really are.

    All their claims of tolerance are completely uncloaked as lies. Once others start publicly showing their support for true marriage the violent tendencies of SSMers are displayed.

    It happened in California and it's happening now in New York.

  10. afdasf
    Posted June 7, 2011 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    "Well, you'd be mad enough to rip signs too if someone was denying you the right to marry the person you love."

    Apparently words like "rational thought" and "self control" aren't in your vocabulary. You're certainly free to express yourself however you want, as are we, but you have to do it in a a peaceful, assertive manner. There is no excuse for this kind of behaviour, no matter what the circumstances may be. Period.

  11. Nathan Black
    Posted June 8, 2011 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    There isn't any excuse for what he's done. On his behalf and on behalf of the gay community, I ask for your forgiveness. I'm especially sorry for the young man that was hit with the bottle. I hope he's ok.

    Violence in any form is inexcusable.

    My only request is that you will consider the possibility that your words and actions do spiritual, emotional and mental violence to people who are gay, bi, lesbian, transgender, their churches and families... and if we look at the whole picture, what you are doing is actually violent towards yourselves.

  12. Maggie Gallagher
    Posted June 8, 2011 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Alvin, I consider it a reasonable inference from what I see on the video.

    Possibly he's a random madman who hates signs in general. But it certainly doesn't look that way.

    If someone ripped down a sign like that that said "Marriage equality" I'm pretty sure you would not hestiate to draw the conclusion it was someone opposed to marriage equality, right?

  13. Edward Stover
    Posted June 8, 2011 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    This happens at an unusually number of TFP events, during the Protect Marriage tour no signs were torn up. Is this guy on TFP payroll?

  14. Jeff King
    Posted June 9, 2011 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    These people need treatment. SSA is a psychosexual developmental disorder brought about by a lack of proper bonding with the same-sex parent. They don't choose to have SSA but neither is it a gene that they are born with.

    Two approaches that are counterproductive are, one, to condemn them or blame them for acting out on their disordered desires (Do we condemn bipolar people for erratic behavior related to mood swings?), and two, to encourage it, legalize it, celebrate it. The latter perpetuates the disorder and prevents these poor people from getting the help they really need.

    The answer is not to change society to suit their agenda, nor is it to ostracize this growing segment of our population. The disinformation has to stop and good psychologists should be once again aloud to treat the underliying malformations that SSA is a symptom of.

  15. Posted June 9, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    The person is not bipolar or crazy or being paid by TFP. He owns a restaurant called the Green Lantern. You can see his picture here:

    He was ALSO arrested and will face trial on July 14. May be you liberals who are running out of excuses for this guy should go and see him and ask him why he was so angry!

  16. northwestperson
    Posted June 10, 2011 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    The TFP people are the ones that seem kookoo

  17. James H
    Posted June 11, 2011 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    As Thomas Sowell put it:

    ‘If you have a right to someone else’s approval, then they do not have a right to their own opinions and values. You cannot say that what “consenting adults” do in private is nobody else’s business and then turn around and say that others are bound to put their seal of approval on it.’

  18. Allison K
    Posted June 14, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Please remember that freedom comes with responsibility. We are free to think, say, and act as we wish, and many people have died for us to have that right. However, there are consequences, be that positive or negative, for any and all actions. Root all of the above in love, and that's how we will create better relationships and a better nation. The most loving of decisions isn't always popular or comfortable. (also, good point, James H)

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