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ABC News Propaganda: People who Think Children Need Moms and Dads are Intolerant Bigots Who Accost Families in Restaurants

 

We can expect a lot more of this from the MSM. Let's note first of all that the behavior of the "waitress" in this setup up is outrageous.

No boss, and no customers would tolerate it. Not even in the "conservative" towns of Texas. Good news for American common sense.

The insidious propaganda point from ABC News is the suggestion that millions of good Americans who believe marriage means a man and a woman because children ought to have moms and dads, would or are behaving like this. Shame on ABC.

Be prepared for lot more prejudiced stereotyping of decent and honorable Americans down the road by powerful elites.

29 Comments

  1. CuriousGeorge
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Great video - thanks for sharing it!

    "No boss, and no customers would tolerate it."

    I would hardly call 90 out of a 100 in New York "no customers". Seems that you need help with math if you equate 90% with 0%.

    In the Texas segment, I would hardly call someone giving the "thumbs up" and high fiving the waitress displaying the qualities of a "decent and honorable" American.

  2. Sam
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    It is not just the waitress conduct that is outrageous but also the alleged customer who is intervening. That male customer conduct is in appropriate for him to take upon himself to attack the waitress and tell she must leave her place of employment is a ludicrous scenario. Also note his gay friendly language (e.g. that the waitress should respect other people's "life choices"). It is clear that he is the actor placed to show that those don't support homosexuality are out of step.

  3. Carlos
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    The waitress used the same argument to deny SSM, that children need a mom and dad. This obviously did not go over very well. Perhpas it's time to tweak the argument against SSM.

  4. Derek
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    This website routinely bashes the ability of same-sex couples to be good parents and wants to prevent it happening at all costs... so, why the offence at the waitress's behavior. Same message, different words.

  5. Barb
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Everything about this video is dishonest.

    First of all, graduate psychology students have been doing exactly this type of social experiment for decades. Several of the "customers" in the restaurant are also actors. The guy in the black hat in the 1st scene, for example, is an actor. Watch the rehearsed nature of his lines and it becomes obvious.

    Secondly, customers want to be served. Restaurant owners want to sell food. End of story. The waitress would have immediately been sent home by her boss, who would always be present.

    Dishonest and unrealistic. Terrible job ABC.

  6. chris from Co
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    In the comforts of your own homes behind computers many of you say the same thing. Their is some of you who go out in public and say the same thing and you push legislators to say the same thing. I will agree your waitress at a restruant will probably not react like this, not in 2011 however 10 yrs ago gay people in some states were kicked out of restraunts and other establishments for showing effection like a quick kiss. That is a reality.
    I hope this video offends you because your behaviors and statements against gay people offend me.

    These actors are YOU just hear the words, same thing.

  7. Barb
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    I have been banned from my grandparents he because I am gay. It is legal in 29 states to refuse service to gay and lesbians. It is legal in 34 states to fire someone simply because they are gay. These things do indeed happen, they are often legal.

  8. Andrew
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how it would have played if the couple came in loudly bad mouthing "heteroseparatists" and approaching all the customers who balked at their public displays of affection as "bigots" and hateful like they do regularly on these threads. Who would have stood then to support them?

    I think the video is more demonstrative of society's value on respect and politeness than on SSM.

  9. Gothelittle
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    "however 10 yrs ago gay people in some states were kicked out of restraunts and other establishments for showing effection like a quick kiss. That is a reality."

    The reality is seen in Massachusetts, where gays enter a restaurant with the express purpose of kissing, fondling, and groping each other until they are thrown out, and then claiming to be discriminated against. I'm sorry, if a man and woman were putting their hands all over each other's genitals while putting their tongues in each other's mouths, they'd be thrown out too. Our society is not a place where any public sexual display is ok as long as it's homosexual.

  10. scragsma
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    How sad. The waitress was wrong to be so rude, and didn't really have a moral right to be so vocal about her feelings, but her concern is valid. Children DO need both a mother and a father. Donovan misapplied the mandate to not judge; we are not to judge people, but we must judge actions as moral or immoral. I suspect that ABC edited the segment to highlight their own liberal agenda and make appear as bigots those who see that homosexual activity is wrong for the individuals, wrong for the family, and wrong for society.

  11. scragsma
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    How sad. First, the waitress' conduct: It was courageous and charitable for her to express her opinion initially, but to keep at it was inappropriate. Her concerns were valid, as homosexual behavior (NOT homosexuality as a personal trait) is bad for the individual, bad for the family, and bad for society, but to publicly harangue and humiliate them was not her place. What really saddens me, however, is that those who intervened did so not because she was being rude, but because they approved of the homosexual lifestyle. I mourn for our misguided society.

  12. NOM Wahhhh Wahhhhh
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Love how NOM cries and cries when their type of BIGOTRY and HATRED is brought to light. You people sicken me!

  13. L. Marie
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    That video was disturbing on several levels. The marriage issue is an emotional one, and no matter what side of the issue you fall on, you will always have people's emotions to deal with. I have never, ever seen a scene like this. It's unrealistic and innappropriate to suggest that this is what the argument is about. Being rude to people? Please. If you saw someone being that rude to someone, I don't care what the issue, you'd stand up and say something. She was looking to provoke a reaction. Are we supposed to be surprised when she gets one? Above all, be polite.... however being polite isn't a cue to roll over on your views. We can politely disagree on principle, on issues, and on substance.

  14. Mark M
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    I agree there were inaccuracies in how this was played. I do know for a fact however that people like this waitress and her 'high fiving friend' exist.
    There was absolutely NO reason for the waitres to make any comment what so ever, and in the real world she probably wouldn't have.
    But the fact still remains that many in our society think it is there right and duty to judge how others live their lives and that is absolutely wrong.
    We all have the right to believe as we wish, but none of us have the right to dictate how others live.

  15. Mike Brooks
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    This is media propaganda. What ABC should have done was have the lesbians talking badly about heterosexuality to the children and lying to them that they don't have a father or that their father was not important. And the kids crying for their real mom and dad.

    Because the real victims here are the kids who have lost their moms and dads, and that the homsexuals think that it doesn't matter, so much that they contract to have children conceived for them with the express intention of taking them away from their mom and dad for their own selfish purposes.

    Or, they could have sent out a lesbian waitress telling a heterosexual couple's kids that they would be better off with lesbian parents because the "research" says that kids do better with lesbians.

    Or the lesbian waitress attacking the Christian couple who are teaching their kids about sodomy and morality at the table.

    Nope, we'll never see those scenarios on ABC. They're carrying the torch for homosexual "victimhood"

  16. Andrew
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    "We all have the right to believe as we wish, but none of us have the right to dictate how others live."

    Redefining marriage in the marriage debate is not about dictating to others how they ought to live, it's all about re-defining what is best for society. No one is saying that you can't live how you wish, only that you can't demand everyone else like it.

  17. Richard
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    This video is a microcosm of what we see on this NOM blog-site repeatedly. GOTHE LITTLE, you are outrageous. How much more flagrant can you get in your bigotry?

  18. Andrew
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    "This video is a microcosm of what we see on this NOM blog-site repeatedly."

    Let me just point out that this is not a restaurant, we are not authority figures belittling anyone in front of children, and certainly not anything like what that woman did. This is OUR website, and you have come here, to our rally place to present your views. You are welcome to do that, but do not pretend to think that it's anything akin to what that woman portrayed. We are not so nice and sweet and Christian that we will belly roll dive off the defense of marriage simply because our stance is different than yours. The middle of a restaurant is not an appropriate venue for sensitive discussions. This website is.

    If you have any discussion worth discussing, bring it. These are serious issues and they deserve a thorough vetting.

    And, I just have to say in her defense, Gothe Little is one of the most intellectually honest posters on this site, she's reasoned and measured in everything she posts. If you can't come up with anything better than calling names, don't blame her for your ignorance.

  19. Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    NOM increasingly proves that the organization is more intent on removing LGBT from society altogether rather than simply "defending marriage."

  20. L. Marie
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Randall, what are you talking about? That is the wildest unfounded claim I've seen from you guys all day.... and that's saying something!

  21. Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    NOM stoops to a new low by negatively spinning this video.

  22. Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    L. Marie: if you watch the video (and I'm sure you haven't), you'll see that only a hate group would spin this so negatively. Do you agree with the waitress's actions? And what of all of the patrons of the restaurant who vehemently disagree with the waitress? The waitress's character IS a bigot & so is anyone who supports her.

    If you truly believe that you are right, you'll be eating your own words quite soon because the country is quickly moving towards equality for gay people! If you deny that, you're blind or intentionally ignoring the facts.

  23. TC Matthews
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Not even LGBT activists posting on this site claim that she behaved realistically. It's ridiculous that ABC would portray such a one sided view of such a large social issue. They do their viewers a disservice with this piece of propaganda.

  24. L. Marie
    Posted May 24, 2011 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Randall, why would you assume I haven't seen it? You must not have read the thread and my comments earlier. Insulting my intelligence and calling me names is hardly a substitute for substantive comment.

    Try again honey.

  25. Gothelittle
    Posted May 25, 2011 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    L Marie, Randall is just mad at me because I keep pointing out the fact that SSM activists in California and New York have been harassing blacks, both gays and straights, because they've developed this mindset that anyone who is dark-skinned must hate gays since opposition to SSM is higher in the black community.

    Apparently making up an imaginary situation in which a traditional marriage supporter acts badly is enough to call all traditional marriage supporters hateful and bigoted... and anyone who points to actual documented fact of SSM activists acting badly is also hateful and bigoted.

    It's just the way they argue. Heaven help them if that's the way they actually think. I'm a little surprised that they keep targeting *me* on this site when other posters have supported reinstating sodomy bans, but I'm starting to get used to it.

  26. RC
    Posted May 25, 2011 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    The posts by Gothelittle clearly indicate the falsehoods and lies that NOM continuously implants in public about gay people and same-sex couples (e.g. that we seek to push the limits in public - that comment is BEYOND biggoted and wrong). I feel as though me and my family are constantly victimized by the intolerance and lies spewed by NOM on a regular basis. As unrealistic as this video may have been, I am stunned and quite frankly bewildered by how NOM has spun this negatively and in such a way to put down the "liberal" media.

    Finally, NOM, you can never call yourself not anti-gay for using YOUR religion and the fact that you are in the majority to marginalize the LGBT community (though referenda) and any hope that they may have building a family is clearly beyond anti-gay. I am personally hurt by the constant anti-gay actions and viewpoints espoused by this supposedly "pro-family" organization (only if you happen to be straight).

  27. Andrew
    Posted May 25, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Gothelittle, It's my experience that LGBT activists single out women and minorities as especially offensive. Welcome to the club.

  28. Ryan
    Posted May 25, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    I would like to pose a question:

    In Texas, it is legal for a restaurant (or any other establishment) to refuse service to people if they are gay or lesbian.

    Would it have been okay to tell them to leave simply on the basis of their orientation, as long as the waitress denying service was "nice" about it?

    Honest question. Tell me how you feel.

  29. John Noe
    Posted May 25, 2011 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Andrew: Nice to see your posts. The pro SSM advocates always attack her because her posts are right and very good. Always attack the messenger when you cannot refute the message.
    I support NOM but I do not suffer anywhere near the amount of attacks. This is because I am not as good as some of the other posters.

    Anyways: This video was so one sided and a setup. It was pure propaganda hogwash not worhty of consideration. Then ABC news with its blatant bias against conservatives, independents, moderates, and Republicans wonders why it is losing viewers and getting creamed in the ratings.