NY Marriage Battle Intensifies - NOM Marriage News May 19, 2011


Dear Marriage Supporter,

On Sunday, I locked arms with Sen. Rev. Rubén Díaz and marched through the streets of the Bronx.

It was like nothing I've ever done or seen before: thousands of people, of every race, creed and color, but heavily Latino, with balloons, salsa music, and Bibles, determined that their voice will be heard in New York!

The festive atmosphere and the warm response of the people in the Bronx made it seem like, well, a ticker-tape parade, if the Bronx had ticker-tape parades.

As we marched, people waved to us from the their apartments buildings, signaling, with thumbs up and high fives, their agreement with the message of the march for dignity—we march in love to protect marriage as the union of husband and wife.


On the steps of the courthouse our thousands met a tiny counter-protest—a few dozen at most—but one of them was Rev. Díaz's granddaughter, who wishes to marry a woman.

I urged the crowd not to be silenced, but to stand for marriage.


One of the most touching moments came when Rev. Díaz called his granddaughter up to our side of the podium and kissed her.

She told reporters that she respected her grandfather even though she disagrees with him.

The only TV news station to cover what the Daily News called a "massive" rally on our side was New York 1—but they captured the touching exchange.


Respect, and love, in the midst of serious and important moral disagreement. That's the way this good fight should be fought!

The powers that be are unleashing an all-out push for gay marriage in New York which is like nothing we've ever seen before.

Governor Cuomo

When Gov. Cuomo decided to barnstorm the state, raising public pressure on legislators, he declared that gay marriage was one of the top three issues he was trying to push this session. The New York Times editorialized that legislators should be "shunned" if they do not pass gay marriage (with a scarlet "M" maybe?).

This week, Mayor Bloomberg went to Albany to lobby and declared that passing gay marriage was the most important issue facing New York.

I'm scratching my head thinking, huh? Do these powerful pols really think that will play outside a small narrow circle? (Call it Manhattan!)

New York's economy is in the tank, housing prices continue to fall, taxes are rising, schools are failing, there's no budget in sight, and state pols keep getting locked up for stealing from the people's purse—but the most important issue facing New York is passing same-sex marriage?

Mayor Bloomberg

Mayor Bloomberg also promised to support any GOP senator who voted for gay marriage in the next election—and of course that means big bucks.

The irony is that while Gov. Cuomo says he makes "ethics reform" one of his other top issues, we're watching spectacularly wealthy men try to pressure legislators to vote for something their constituents don't want.

The signs show that despite this incredible pressure, it's not (yet) working.

The blog City Hall News reported this week: "By the end of yesterday, none of the missing votes [for gay marriage] had yet materialized. And with only 14 days left in the legislative session, one Democratic Senate insider acknowledged that passing a gay marriage bill may not end up viewed with the same time pressure as renewing rent regulations, which must be completed by June 15."

Not a single Republican in the senate has come forward to say they will vote for gay marriage. Dean Skelos, the GOP senate majority leader, is backtracking from an earlier promise to put gay marriage to a vote—saying this week that he will caucus first with his conference before deciding whether to vote on the bill.

This is the same bill that died 38-24 just two years ago, remember.

Conservative Party Chairman Mike Long's announcement that the Conservative Party will not endorse any Republican who votes for gay marriage helped. As the New York Times reported in a profile this morning of Long and his influence: "'He's a man of his word, and his handshake is one of the last handshakes completely trusted in New York politics,' said Bruce N. Gyory, a Democratic political consultant and adjunct professor of political science at the University at Albany. 'And when he makes a threat, it counts.'"

The Conservative Party released this print ad this week, to remind squishy Republicans what happens to Republicans who vote for gay marriage:

NOM has pledged $1 million to inform voters about any Republican senators who votes for a spokesman for gay marriage (and to help brave Dems who oppose gay marriage too!).

We can't possibly match Bloomberg's money but we don't have to. All we need is enough money to get our message out.

As Maggie told the New York Times in this May 18 story, "The Republican base is incredibly united on this issue. . . .It's a really bad idea to be for gay marriage if you're a Republican, and I don't think Mayor Bloomberg's money is going to change that."

It's a tough fight, and it will go down to the wire.

Meanwhile, we're momentarily expecting good news from the formerly blue state of Minnesota. And in North Carolina, 3500 people rallied to demand the same right to vote for marriage. Kudos to Bill Brook and the North Carolina Family Policy council, Tony Perkins of FRC and all the good people who came together for that impressive rally.

Let me close with some words of encouragement. Over at Patheos, Maggie Gallagher responded to a Christian who wanted to give up on the fight for "civil marriage":

"Once we decide to give up on the public fight on marriage, what's next? What's next is shaming, punishing, and economically harming those who speak up for the biblical view of marriage—as the fates of Peter Vidmar and Damian Goddard have recently illustrated. What's next is the use of government, through the public schools and other avenues, to teach that the biblical view of marriage is discredited bigotry. See 'Can We Please Just Start Admitting That We Do Actually Want to Indoctrinate Kids' for evidence."

She goes on, "Gentlemen may cry truce, truce, but there is no truce. Those who decide to submit or withdraw or to mute themselves and their beliefs, under the heat now being generated against those who stand, will find it hard to find a principled place, later on down the very short road, on which to stand."

Maggie's always eloquent, but I also resonate to the gruffer wisdom of Mike Long, who explained to the New York Times:

"I can't go around life making everything a deal breaker. But there are certain things that you have to stand for. If we don't stand for this, then why are we in business?"

Thank you for helping us make victory possible, in His name,

Semper fi,

Brian brown

Brian S. Brown
National Organization for Marriage

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  1. henry
    Posted May 19, 2011 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    You people are so out of touch with reality that I cannot even bring myself to imagine a world in which we coexist. I am sure I pay you at the checkout line in the grocery store, and it's probably you at the tollbooth on the turnpike. But seriously, get with it. Gay people are people too. They deserve the same constitutional rights we all enjoy.

  2. SC Guy
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Oh and henry I only more closely read your insulting post to see that you're talking down to people who oppose homosexuality by suggesting that they're uneducated, stupid and poor. The truth is that if we were that stupid, we wouldn't be changing minds in the state government, would we?

  3. John Noe
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Very sad to see that some Christians are giving up the fight. Give up now and see what happens later and you will regret this decision. Draw a line in the sand and hold your ground.
    Our freedom of religion is at stake. If SSM takes hold in all fifty states the homosexuals are planning an all out culture and lawsuit war on Christians. The Heritage Foundation has documented over 300 possibilities.
    Christians being discriminated against in jobs. Christians teachers and other government workers being fired for their beliefs. Christian businesses under assalt and being put out. Possibly losing your children as their will be demand to teach the new diversity and tolerance to your kids. You are labled a hater and your children are taken away. It will get this ugly.
    Act now are feel regret in the future.

  4. John Noe
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 6:28 am | Permalink

    What else is new from another SSM supporter like Henry. All of our blogs and posts reflect intelligent, sincere and great people making compelling arguments about why man/woman marriage matters.
    They never can refute or rebut our posts and great arguments. So Henry and the others just assume that we are stupid, ignorant, and hatefull.
    For the record Henry I and many others here at NOM are college educated who understand the important issues here at stake. For example children which your side could care less about. But some of us do and do believe in children's rights.
    Your snobbish post shows your smugness and your inability to debate the core issues.

  5. Mike Brooks
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Henry? Didn't you wait on my table once? Or maybe you gave my wife a perm?

    Don't throw stereotype stones, henry.

  6. Patrick in Texas
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    Fortunately, all polls confirm that the majority of Latinos support marriage equality. In fact, every recent poll I've seen on marriage equality shows the anti-gay are a minority. I'm not talking about NOM's polls, which are obviously biased. I'm talking about polls from Gallup, CNN, ABC, etc. It's clear that the tipping point has been reached. The anti-gay are clearly on the wrong side of history. The future certainly isn't bright for the anti-gay movement and it won't be long before they are considered in the same league as the KKK. The anti-gay are quickly becoming the new gay.

  7. Patrick in Texas
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    There actaully is a correlation between being anti-gay and lack of education. That is why those with a college level of education more stronly suppport marriage equality than those with only a high school level of education. Bigotry is certainly based in ignorence.

  8. Marty
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    "Mommy, where is my Daddy?"

    "Well Johnny, your Nana and I don't really like boys, so you don't have a daddy. You have an extra Mum."

    "But in science class they said..."

    "You hush and go play outside."

    Talk to me about bigotry, Patrick in Texas.

  9. bill cope
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Bless you Patrick, God's truth is not bigotry.

  10. Patrick in Texas
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Bill, you mean your version and interpretation of Gods truth. Many Christians disagree with you. Besides, the Bible is irrelevant when it comes to civil law. You are free to have your religious beliefs, but realize not everyone shares those beliefs.Bless you Bill for believing God's truth includes bigotry.

  11. Mary Ann
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Bill, the majority of Latinos and African Americans oppose redefining marriage and family. We saw this in CA and every state (31, I believe?) where marriage amendments have been passed.
    Are these people motivated by bigotry? And if you think they are, do you have the courage to tell them that?

  12. Barb
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Interesting how pseudo-intellectual SSM advocates often end their lost arguments with name calling.

  13. Posted May 20, 2011 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    These pro gay should not be posting here. You should posting on your own sites.

  14. Patrick in Texas
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    John, it seems odd that you are so obsessed with Christians being discriminated against when that is exactly what you are doing to gay people. What goes around comes around or in Christian terms "you reap what you sow".

  15. Barb
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Love your post Marty!

  16. TC Matthews
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    "There actaully is a correlation between being anti-gay and lack of education. That is why those with a college level of education more stronly suppport marriage equality than those with only a high school level of education. Bigotry is certainly based in ignorence."

    I love it. Actaull Ignorence.

  17. Barb
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    "I love it. Actaull Ignorence."

    LOL. Nothing says intelligence like misspelled words!

  18. Patrick in Texas
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    TC Matthews,

    You point out silly spelling errors because you couldn't refute the substance of my post, which is the correlation between lack of education and being anti-gay. Nice try though. LOL!

  19. Lefty
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    More anti-working class bigotry from the SSM advocates. Who's surprised?

  20. Equal2you
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    If a company makes a new kind of apple, does it bother you that they are redefining the definition of apples for everyone?

    Honeycrisp apples did not exist 10 years ago, but now they are many peoples favorite apple. Do you want to vote to make sure your state does not recognize them as an apple?

  21. Marty
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Permalink


    How about if you had been buying "fruit salad" from your grocer for the past 20 years (a nice combination of apples and oranges) and then one day you bought it and it was all apples, or all oranges. Would you declare that it was still "equal" to a fruit salad?

  22. Marty
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    I understand you don't really like apples much. But two oranges doesn't make a fruit salad.

  23. TC Matthews
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Patrick, I think actually that I addressed exactly your point. It just happens that your post contradicted your own position. You are your own best refuted example.

  24. Patrick in Texas
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    TC Matthews,

    Actually, no , you didn't address the point which is the research showing a correlation between being anti-gay and lack of education. You simply pointed out spelling errors, which I make often because I type fast. In any case, your opinion certainly doesn't change the fact that there is a correlation between being anti-gay and ignorance.

  25. Gothelittle
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    "You people are so out of touch with reality that I cannot even bring myself to imagine a world in which we coexist."

    And that, Henry, is the difference between SSM advocates and us. And that is why it is so ironic that you are the ones accusing us of hate.

  26. Craig Hundelt
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    For those who support SSM on this site, numerous studies have shown the destructive and unhealthy effects of the gay lifestyle. These findings are from government agencies and universities. Just a few are CDC, University of Chicago,etc.
    In addition, clinical studies from NARTH and others have shown a reparative drive on the part of Homosexual that has taken a destructive turn. The gay homosexual in attempting to remedy the psychological deficit or injury indulges in homoerotic behavior to no avail.

  27. marriageequality=oneman+onewoman
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    "he correlation between lack of education and being anti-gay."

    I would love to see a study on that subject.

    Incidentally, I have a 4-year university degree, and my husband has a Bachelor's, and 2 Master's degrees. Between the two of us we have the humanities, engineering, and business covered. We both sympathize with those who struggle with same-sex attraction, but neither of us supports homosexual behavior. Neither of us supports homosexual identity politics, and neither of us supports same-sex "marriage," which is indeed, a Frankenstein of a creation. Higher education has helped us learn analytical thinking, which is helpful when one considers that logically, marriage has nothing to do with sexual orientation, and everything to do with being opposite-sexed.

  28. John Noe
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    I see the trash talking Pat is bashing us marriage supporters about us not being educated. They have all of the answers and not us.

    Here is some real education Pat. Homosexuals deny the biological truth about their bodies. Any educated person who investigates the facts knows that practicing homosexuality leads to sickness, disease, and pre mature death.
    I am college educated and know my human anatomy. The penis has no business in the anus. This is how you get AIDS. So we pro traditional marriage supporters are educated enough to practice a healthy lifestyle. Meanwhile the lack of education on the part of the pro SSM advocates and their continued ignoring of bilogical reality is leading to disease and pre mature death.

  29. marriageequality=oneman+onewoman
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    I'm guessing a lack of either education, wisdom, or both, would lead someone to be duped by the gimmick that is SSM. Once people learn to see through the emotionalism that is the sandy foundation of SSM, defending real marriage between a man and a woman isn't a tough sell.

  30. Gothelittle
    Posted May 20, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Pardon, but SSM isn't like breeding different varieties of apple to create a new kind of apple.

    It's more like slapping the nutritional label for whole grain bread on a loaf of white bread in hopes that you can eliminate the high fructose corn syrup and increase the fiber content of the white bread.

    Or putting the nutritional label for chicken breast on a beefsteak in hopes of reducing the fat and cholesterol content.

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