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Another Dem Politician Admits He Lied to Voters About Gay Marriage

 

Over at HuffPost, Jonathan Miller, who was once Treasurer of the state of Kentucky and recently left an appointive post as Secretary of Finance and Administration, comes out of the closet as a gay marriage supporter--after he left office, naturally.

He admits to being a little bit ashamed he did so only after leaving office. But he doesn't confess any shame at all about repeatedly lying to Kentucky voters in order to get elected.

"For the first decade of our marriage, living on the East Coast, we could be open about our beliefs. But then we decided to move back home and in 1998, I even made the youthful indiscretion of running for Congress.

There was simply no other option: I had to shove my gay marriage views into a back corner of my closet. My consultants advised that any deviation or hesitation would immediately make me unelectable ... When asked, I would parse my answers like a Clintonian deposition.

...Some will castigate me for waiting until it was too late to make any difference. I plead guilty.

But while such a gesture might have been noble and potentially educational, I determined that, on balance, it wasn't worth political hari-kari. There were too many battles on too many other fronts that I wanted to fight. Gay marriage is important, but so are poverty reduction, educational opportunity, environmental protection and so on. I'd be giving up on all of the latter to simply make a statement on the former."

13 Comments

  1. Ken
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    It's a shame that there are still places in the country where a man will pretend he's a bigot in order to be politically successful. Fortunately that's changing. The majority of Americans now support marriage equality and those pockets where social justice is still a fairly unpopular concept will eventually catch up. 

  2. Posted May 17, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    I believe that the closet is the best place for homosexuals; it keeps them safe and keeps our kids safe.

    I think a lot of guys will shun marriage once it becomes a gay thing; it also gives them an excuse to not get married.

  3. Barb
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    "any deviation or hesitation would immediately make me unelectable"

    Translation: "If I stopped lying."

    This guy reminds me of our president.

  4. Posted May 17, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    It's a shame that there are still places in the country where a man will pretend he's a bigot in order to be politically successful

    It is a shame there are people who pretend that those who believe in the definition of marriage, used in this country since colonial times, are bigots.

  5. John Noe
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    In the future voters may wish to look more at actions and records rather than say what is said to get elected. So if you support marriage like we here at NOM, and a Democrat is saying he agrees with us. Best be carefull when you vote.
    It would be better to look at the track record of the party and what it stands for than what the candidate is saying.

  6. Edwin
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    "I believe that the closet is the best place for homosexuals; it keeps them safe and keeps our kids safe."

    Why is it that traditional marriage supporters continuously use this argument? When taken on its head, it has NOTHING to do with SSM or traditional marriage, nor is it an argument based on logic. It is bullying and a very outrageous statement.

  7. marriageequality=oneman+onewoman
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Tragic that so many of our elected leaders do not lead with integrity and wisdom. Or morals.

  8. MIke Brooks
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Edwin -

    I see protecting marriage as just one issue in fighting the drive to normailize homosexuality in society. I see nothing good that comes from homosexual acts; just disease and increased health care costs (from HIV, AIDS, psychiatric issues), as well as attacks on religious institutions that contribute to society far more than homosexuality has or ever will.

    If you want to practice homosexual acts, do it in the privacy of your own home; if you bring it into the public, you just put our institutions, like marriage, in jeopardy and our children in danger if adopting your disordered lifestyle. Tell me how homosexuality is good for society and why we should value it, put taxpayer money in support of it via marriage and vie increased health care costs, instead of trying to find a cure for it.

  9. John N.
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    This guy reminds me of New England Democrats and Obama. Lie to get elected and then change your position once in office. In NH Lynch lied to be govenor and smirked about it.
    Here in the USA Obama lied on national television in a debate with John McCain but now is playing dumb.

    Here is a great election law. Any candidate who changes his position once elected can be recalled and a new election called to see if his change is the change the voters want.

  10. Mike P.
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Ken- KY voters voted 75% for traditional marriage. Do you think you could get 75% support for same-sex marriage in any state in the country? The answer to that question tells you all you need to know about the state of public opinion.

  11. ncghostwriter
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    @MIke Brooks I will once again say this. The best argument that is needed to protect your case is not bullying the opposing side and cite accurate statements. As said in a legal class if you are unsure of your citation then don't cite it. It makes your argument look weak to the opposition. It is a proven fact that closeted individuals are major contributors to the spread of sexual infections such as HIV as you stated. This behavior not only spreads the disease but infects their opposite sex partner they use to lie to the public. This is the case with many reported HIV cases in the black community. It is also selfish to WANT a person to lie to a person who love them but is not truly loved back. Imagine this happening to your little girl one day. Your statement about homosexuality not being seen in history reflects the need to review Roman history. Its not that society should cherish it but it has nothing good to repress it. Mind you priesthood used to be the historical "gay thing" in the middle ages look how that turned. I understand your passion but formulate an effective argument.

  12. Chuck in CA
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    @Mike P. - Voters in California voted *TWICE* to defne marriage the traditional way, yet the homo lobby judge shopped and got a gay judge who stood to gain by overturning the will of the voters to throw out the results. They will stop at nothing to get their way! The ends justifies the means, doncha know! These pathetic losers' twisted non-logic creates a "right" from nothing more than a lustful desire to normalize their perversity.

  13. Mike Brooks
    Posted May 17, 2011 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    ncghost:

    Not sure where you feel a need for a citation; I expressed an opinion. Homosexuals have been expressing opinions and winning over an ignorant public, so how's it feel to have the same tactic thrown back at you? When I was litigator, I learned that an emotional, persuasive argument can easily trump a well-researched factual one. I also learned that when someone feels that they are losing, they object to the form of the questioning.

    "In the closet" is an issue separate from honesty with the people who someone has sexual relations in private. If you read my other posts, when I talk about "in the closet," I mean that sodomy should be made illegal again so taht homosexuality is forced out of public view and into the bedroom where it belongs. Your talking about dishonesty of homosexuals who lie to their opposite sex partners, which happens regardless of whether a homosexual is out or in the closet.

    My little girl knows that we are all capable of loving men and women; she also knows that when choosing a mate to promise to love in marriage, she will choose a man so that she can have children with him and a stable family environment.

    Homosexuality has existed in history, of course; but homosexuals have never "married" in history becuase marriage is about procreation (duh); and to the extent that homsoexuality was ever accepted in a society, it never lasts. You have to go back 1600+ years to find it; why has it never come back?

    Yes, look at the priests; can't find a straight one these days, because the straight guys don't want to join the club with the gays.

    Calling attention to the fact that HIV/AIDS is a homosexual disease is not bullying; it's fact. Saying that homosexual acts provide no value to society, as opposed to heterosexual sex which produces offsrping - is fact.