Dear Friends of Marriage,
Today it's Good Friday. For those of us who are Christians this is perhaps the most important day of the year. And it's a paradox. Always the same paradox: This is the day I am asked contemplate the way in which my sins--my own sins--crucified my Lord and my God. What a horrifying thought. What a black day. God who came down to dwell among us, tortured, humiliated, executed among criminals as a criminal.
Even after such an extraordinary gift, human beings wake up each day unable or unwilling to reach even minimal standards--thou shalt not lie, thou shalt not covet--much less the Great Commandments. Who can love one's neighbor--the guy in the deli, much less the homeless person on the street--with the infinite love we bestow on ourselves? Who can match for others the human heart's patient, constant, persistent desire that good be showered upon us, whether we deserve it or not?
But for the grace of God....
And yet here it is Good Friday, the day in which God took upon Himself our sins, and so made it possible for sinful people to be in communion with Holiness itself.
Thank you for your comradeship and your prayers. I pray that you and your family be protected, inspired and encouraged to defend Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth.
Happy Easter,
Brian S. BrownExecutive Director
National Organization for Marriage
20 Nassau Street, Suite 242
Princeton, NJ 08542
bbrown@nationformarriage.org
17 Comments
Well if you say that God took upon our sins and made us in communion with Holiness itself, I guess that means homosexuals too! Wow, good job NOM, another brilliant post that made you all look like hypocrites
"my prayer is that NOM members try to see that there are human beings out there that have legitimate issues that will require a degree of change."
Might I suggest: http://www.exodusinternational.org/
Change is their speciality. Godspeed, our prayers go with you.
Finally, Marty, your true colors show. And those of the rest of NOM who hide behind Maggie's sterile arguments, cleaned of outright homophobia. This is what really lies beneath.
This is my own opinion. Yes, there are human beings out there who have legitimate issues that will require a degree of change! The "degree of change they NEED" have to do with getting permission for having legal issues changed so they can be named as next of kin to someone they care about. Now change that to make out legal papers stating they have right to property or access to their friend at a hospital or the right to be named on legal documents as having right to say whether their "friend" is on life support or not. It is not a "need" to marry or a "need" to force their views to be taught to children in schools nor a "need" to legally stop the teachings of the Bible in churches nor is it a "need" to push states to go against the Lord's will for humanity. We should distinguish between "need" and "desire" here.
Right Clark, its always that big bad old homophobia. Which would come as a suprise to my many gay and lesbian friends. Don asked about change, I supplied a resource.
Anyway, i've never hid my "true colors". I very nearly chose to be gay, but chose to be straight instead. Life is full of choices, opportunities, and constraints.
But same-sex marriage? No. Separate just isn't equal. If it were, gays and lesbians wouldn't be seeking medical fertility specialists to correct what is merely a social fertility problem.
Ah, I see, Marty. Thanks for clarifying (although, I must say it's nothing short of a miracle that you can choose between being gay and straight, like choosing between pepperoni or mushroom). I do understand where you're coming from better.
Marty, I think I understand now where you're coming from. Thanks for the explanation.
EVERYONE WHO ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THIS WEBSITE, BELIEVES IN ITS CAUSE OR REALLY THINKS THAT THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR GAYS AND HETERO-SEXUALS TO LIVE IN HARMONY IS SIMPLY IGNORANT. TAKE A DEEP LOOK AT THE PRINCIPLES THAT FORMED YOUR BELIEFS. ARE THEY FAIR? ARE THEY JUST? WERE THEY FORMED FOR GOOD REASON?
Marty, being gay isn't something you can change, no mater how many lies Exodus International and Narth want to try to tell you.
Marty, you didn't choose to be straight over being gay, you simply choose to deny the reality.
Yes Vast Variety, you surely know more about my life than I do.
I chose. Maybe not all can, but many do.
Hey did you see that Meredith Baxter Birney came out as a lesbian? At age 63, after 3 failed marriages to men? Yeah, TELL me she didn't choose.
Andrew, it's not that those who support NOM don't believe in tolerence for homosexuality. They just don't want traditional family values to be officially smeared as racist human and civil rights abomination.
Dear ConservativeNY,
"Tolerance for homosexuality"? Get off your high horse. Your tolerance is nothing but bigotry disguised as virtue. Tolerance is when you step on dog crap and pretend not to be bothered.
Why don't you try some respect instead?
Oh, and I'm Portuguese and straight, by the way, but I've always been interested in the US's double-standards... Land of the free, indeed.
You've been galloping towards something very close to fascism since Kennedy was murdered.
You're like the bad flatmate of the world: "Oh, did I break your stuff? I'm sorry. I didn't know it was your stuff. I'll replace it sometime... with my stuff."
Way to go, neanderthals
"Why don't you try some respect instead?" "Way to go, neanderthals"
Pedro, you're making me laugh a little.
Dear Mathews,
Good.
I believe you quoting me twice would mean that by calling supporters of this movement neanderthals would contradict my asking for respect towards homosexuals and lesbians, right?
Just consider that calling supporters of this movement neanderthals is actually very respectfull, as it obviously means I consider them to be somewhat part of the darwinian chain of evolutionary process that eventually led to to the appearance of Homo Sapiens Sapiens (yes twice because it's the trinomial name).
But seen as said supporters probably belive evolutionary theory to be wrong, it was probably as usefull as thumbs to amoebae.
Cheers
Forgive me for posting twice, but I couldn't help noticing Marty's advice to homosexuals in general by referring them to exodus international.
Curious as to what it might be, I checked it out.
In their doctrinal statement they say they believe in both the Old and New testament.
Well, seen as the old testament was actually written by the hebrew people and refers to the doctrines of the jewish religion, one mustn't forget that jewish doctrine considers the hebrew people to be the chosen people of God (the only chosen people, I might add).
So I was wandering if Marty would just like to help the gay jews and forget the rest of those misguided people out there (not me, for as an heterosexual, I'm not interested in the growing in numbers of sexual competitors by turning queers straight).
As for believers in the new testament that both exodus international and this site seem to be, the teachings of Christ that spring to mind at the moment (in spite of the fact that not a single shred of historical evidence that he ever existed-unlike Pontius Pilate, for example, or King Herode) are the ones about loving thy neighbour, and that do unto others as you would like done unto thyself thingie, which somehow to me seem in quite contrast to what you advocate.
To sum it up, the old testament is nothing but fanfiction of a religion which excludes every non-jew, and the old testament is about a guy (if he ever existed) who would consider you all nothing but sinners but would forgive you nonetheless.
But no worries guys, if I ever come across him (if you don't crucify him again like the Pharisees did, I will get on my knees and ask him much like the roman centurion did:
-Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof; but only say the word, and these fools will be enlightened.
If I do not come across him but still come to believe, I'll ask him to forgive you guys (for you know not what you do), for I certainly cannot.
And please forgive me for any misspelings on this or in the previous post. So you forgive my sins of form, and I'll somehow try to forgive your sins of content.
Pedro, I'm curious why you insist on resorting to brash insults instead of something useful? Your lack of respect for anyone but yourself speaks volumes.