Comments on: MARRIAGE ALERT: New Jersey SSM Vote Expected Thursday! http://www.nomblog.com/657/ The official blog of the National Organization for Marriage Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:12:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Chairm http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11694 Chairm Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:49:36 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11694 New Jersey, the blogpost and the topic for discussion is what just occured in a state where SSMers expected and promised a big win. They lost. Marriage won. New Jersey, the blogpost and the topic for discussion is what just occured in a state where SSMers expected and promised a big win.

They lost. Marriage won.

]]> By: jonathan http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11684 jonathan Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:10:50 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11684 This premise is not quite a conclusion of law or finding of fact until subject to a rational basis review in our federal and state court system. Will the argumentation hold up under the courts rational basis standard of review? Will it pass constitutional muster for due process and equal protection? "A committed and public union of equal yet opposite genders helps to unify and stabilize society, and promotes responsible procreation for both men and women." The jury is still out.... This premise is not quite a conclusion of law or finding of fact until subject to a rational basis review in our federal and state court system. Will the argumentation hold up under the courts rational basis standard of review? Will it pass constitutional muster for due process and equal protection?

"A committed and public union of equal yet opposite genders helps to unify and stabilize society, and promotes responsible procreation for both men and women."

The jury is still out....

]]> By: Chairm http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11683 Chairm Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:13:14 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11683 This week, New Jesey showed that support for the SSM-merger is soft while support for marriage is solidifying, politically. Excellent news and thank you NOM for the very good job your organization has been doing across the country. Nothing succeeds like success. Heh. This week, New Jesey showed that support for the SSM-merger is soft while support for marriage is solidifying, politically.

Excellent news and thank you NOM for the very good job your organization has been doing across the country.

Nothing succeeds like success. Heh.

]]> By: Chairm http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11682 Chairm Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:11:37 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11682 According to one of the largest survey after the vote on Proposition 8, a significant portion of the self-identified gay-lesbian portion of the electorate actually provided the margin of victory for the CA marriage amendment. Not all "gay-lesbian" voters favored the SSM merger in California, one of the most politically gay-friendly jurisdictions in the nation. According to one of the largest survey after the vote on Proposition 8, a significant portion of the self-identified gay-lesbian portion of the electorate actually provided the margin of victory for the CA marriage amendment.

Not all "gay-lesbian" voters favored the SSM merger in California, one of the most politically gay-friendly jurisdictions in the nation.

]]> By: jonathan http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11673 jonathan Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:14:43 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11673 About 1,000 federal laws on the books administer taxes, transfer payments, and child custody or inheritance and property rights in state laws. Government may not deny any person when administering benefits in civil law, equal protection and the application within its jurisdiction. According to the 14th Amendment and the Fifth Amendments in the US Constitution. In other words, I suggest its not wise to celebrate victory on several legislative battles. Wait for the judicial victories in the rule of law. There you indeed have something to crow about. About 1,000 federal laws on the books administer taxes, transfer payments, and child custody or inheritance and property rights in state laws.

Government may not deny any person when administering benefits in civil law, equal protection and the application within its jurisdiction. According to the 14th Amendment and the Fifth Amendments in the US Constitution.

In other words, I suggest its not wise to celebrate victory on several legislative battles.

Wait for the judicial victories in the rule of law. There you indeed have something to crow about.

]]> By: jonathan http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11672 jonathan Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:16:03 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11672 Defeats are just part of the normal civil rights process of public debate. I say vote away... Due process and equal protection governs the final outcome in the rule of law. From a technical jurisprudence perspective, Maine, NY and NJ are good news because it shows gays and lesbians are politically powerless to consistently achieve their own equality. This makes the case for a suspect class and heightened level of scrutiny much easier to make. The federal court start judicial review on 11 January.. It should be very interesting indeed to watch these proceedings on YouTube during this time. Defeats are just part of the normal civil rights process of public debate. I say vote away... Due process and equal protection governs the final outcome in the rule of law.

From a technical jurisprudence perspective, Maine, NY and NJ are good news because it shows gays and lesbians are politically powerless to consistently achieve their own equality. This makes the case for a suspect class and heightened level of scrutiny much easier to make.

The federal court start judicial review on 11 January.. It should be very interesting indeed to watch these proceedings on YouTube during this time.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11668 Kevin Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:47:19 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11668 Don't forget, Adam, more straight people support same-sex marriage, by huge numbers, than gay people. It's wrong to suggest that only gay people support same-sex marriage! Don't forget, Adam, more straight people support same-sex marriage, by huge numbers, than gay people. It's wrong to suggest that only gay people support same-sex marriage!

]]> By: Deanne http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11664 Deanne Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:53:12 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11664 Congratulations to the families of New Jersey! Congratulations to the families of New Jersey!

]]> By: Marianne http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11663 Marianne Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:24:19 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11663 Very pleased that the good people of New Jersey voted NOT to neuter marriage. A committed and public union of equal yet opposite genders helps to unify and stabilize society, and promotes responsible procreation for both men and women. Very pleased that the good people of New Jersey voted NOT to neuter marriage. A committed and public union of equal yet opposite genders helps to unify and stabilize society, and promotes responsible procreation for both men and women.

]]> By: Adam http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11662 Adam Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:22:59 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11662 You tube is where all the gays can connect on the video feed and scream loud about how they aren't being justly dealt. Enjoy the youtube forum however legally speaking, nothing significant will happen. You tube is where all the gays can connect on the video feed and scream loud about how they aren't being justly dealt. Enjoy the youtube forum however legally speaking, nothing significant will happen.

]]> By: Adam http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11661 Adam Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:20:12 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11661 The defeat by a vote of 20-14 The defeat by a vote of 20-14

]]> By: Kevin http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11654 Kevin Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:13:49 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11654 I think at this point the court case in California, which will lead to the overturning of all marriage discrimination laws nationwide, is the more interesting news event. Thank you YouTube! I think at this point the court case in California, which will lead to the overturning of all marriage discrimination laws nationwide, is the more interesting news event. Thank you YouTube!

]]> By: Marty http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11653 Marty Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:04:16 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11653 SSM just can't win. Nobody's buying what they're selling. SSM just can't win. Nobody's buying what they're selling.

]]> By: Ben http://www.nomblog.com/657/comment-page-1/#comment-11652 Ben Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:49:32 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=657#comment-11652 IT FAILED!! IT FAILED!!

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