Comments on: NOM Marriage News: December 11, 2009

By: Chairm

Chairm — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:42:43 +0000

In issuing licenses, society via government discriminates between marriage and other stuff.

We distinguish between fishing, driving, and practising medicine, when those things are licensed.

SSMers can't be bothered to distinguish SSM from other stuff. SSM is part of the very broad category of arrangements and relationships that are not marriage. Indeed, SSM would not be distinguishable from the vast majority of the nonmarriage category where gayness is not the defining feature.

SSM is a political symbol for equating gay and straight. This is a false dicohtomy that does not exist in the marriage law nor in the social institution. SSMers seek to press such extrinsic nonsense into the law and into the marriage culture. Why? They can't justify it but they do whine a lot about gayness anyway.

By: John Lane

John Lane — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:13:52 +0000

Exactly. There is no right to SSM. If you don't like marriage, don't get one.

By: Eileen

Eileen — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:47:15 +0000

Michol, we have the same exact rights. I don't get where you're coming from.

By: Michol

Michol — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:34:02 +0000

In America, the greatest country ever formed, Church, and State are separate. Therefore not allowing gay marriage on the basis of religious beliefs is unconstitutional. If it weren't for this separation, our country would lack the diversity that makes it so great. As for the man that lost his job, that's unfortunate, but how many GLBT citizens have lost their jobs based on the same bigotry, that you've chosen to incorporate into you're belief system? If you don't support same sex marriage, then by all means refrain from getting one. You have stated that this is a win for religious liberty, I disagree, if anything it is the death of religious liberty. Religious liberty is not having the views of the religious right strip citizens of their rights. Religious liberty is the right to practice, and believe as you see fit with respect, and dignity. America denying rights to her citizens, that's a problem of much greater concern, and should be of concern to all Americans.

By: Chairm

Chairm — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:13:48 +0000

Krista, marriage is not one-sexed or is it sex-neutral. But to get an answer to your question, you might want to ask the adults who choose SSM (which is a subset of nonmarriage) as the way to raise their children out of wedlock.

By: Krista

Krista — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:27:01 +0000

I don't understand why NOM doesn't oppose same-sex parenting but does oppose same-sex marriage. What's the point of encouraging the children of same-sex couples to be born and raised out of wedlock?

By: Samantha

Samantha — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:51:49 +0000

Once more, thank you Brian for not allowing us to let down our guard and make us stand up for marriage.

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:03:38 +0000

So on Friday I heard NOM's PSA broadcast over my employer's store wide radio twice an hour, approximately 10-15 times throughout the day. Naturally, via the repetition, I was curious, so I decided to visit this sight. Why exactly does NOM oppose gay marriage?

By: Chairm

Chairm — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:03:23 +0000

Brian, in addition to inviting Solomese to speak against reprisals, please invite him to take disciplinary action against any HRCer who played a part in pressing for that reporter's (and his wife's) unemployment.

Also, let's invite those SSMers who do not count themselves among the hardliners to also stand against these political reprisals.

Brian said: "Believe me, I know that most ordinary gay people aren’t to blame. Gay-marriage supporters, gay and straight, would be appalled by this kind of hardball tactic. Most ordinary Americans are much nicer than that. But this is a powerful, well-funded political movement which increasingly believes they have a right to win, and they don’t appear to have that many scruples about how."