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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/559/comment-page-1/#comment-9715</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, very well said.  Homosexuality is inherently self and otherwise destructive.  Homosexual &quot;marriage&quot; legitimizes and promotes homosexuality, thereby significantly increasing its destructive power.

 You focus on lesbians who have waged war on men and boys.  They clearly have.  But let us not forget that more and more homosexual male &quot;elites&quot; are raising children (status symbol), exploiting them to legitimize their deviant lifestyles.  They selfishly and cruelly deprive those children of mothers for a simple reason that they prefer sodomy with men to conjugal sexual relations with women. 

In any event,  I agree with you that there must be some kind of a self-destruct mechanism there, genetic or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, very well said.  Homosexuality is inherently self and otherwise destructive.  Homosexual "marriage" legitimizes and promotes homosexuality, thereby significantly increasing its destructive power.</p>
<p> You focus on lesbians who have waged war on men and boys.  They clearly have.  But let us not forget that more and more homosexual male "elites" are raising children (status symbol), exploiting them to legitimize their deviant lifestyles.  They selfishly and cruelly deprive those children of mothers for a simple reason that they prefer sodomy with men to conjugal sexual relations with women. </p>
<p>In any event,  I agree with you that there must be some kind of a self-destruct mechanism there, genetic or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Bobby, but they chose non-marriage.  They&#039;re still free to choose a real marriage, just as they always were.  Separate isn&#039;t equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Bobby, but they chose non-marriage.  They're still free to choose a real marriage, just as they always were.  Separate isn't equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if we deny a couple their marriage, then they should not be required to pay taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if we deny a couple their marriage, then they should not be required to pay taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go Maine!  Most of the people of Maine apparently realize that civil rights do not apply to behavior and that extending such rights to behavior, particularly behavior inconsistent with human survival and social harmony, would set a dangerous precedent.

The militant feminist lesbian war on traditional values, on traditional families, and on men and boys generally suffered a setback, but all people who care about the future of society and future of civilization need to keep on fighting.   

Sometimes it almost seems there is some genetic self-destruct mechanism that explains this insane movement to divide and weaken the human family, creating a risk of developing splinter groups of human beings who will never come together and will inevitably destroy each other through never-ending conflict.  Sometimes it just seems like bad luck that the successful struggle against racism would be followed by a destructive struggle by those who would misapply the lessons from that struggle in order to promote and celebrate exclusion (e.g. lesbians excluding men from their families and their company)  of those different from them.  And sometimes it seems  there must be some conspiracy of the corporatist elites who understand that gay marriage will further divide, distract, and confuse the masses, making them politically weak and ineffectual and less able to resist the social evolution from corporatism to full-blown fascism.

In any event, it was a great victory for the traditional family and for the whole human family in Maine.  It is critical that we give people in most of the US time to see the destructive power of gay marriage where it has been accepted before they decide to take that plunge and fundamentally alter their society forever.  Once it becomes legal, I am afraid there will be no going back as the lesbians will quickly alter the social rules so that we can never again get back to where we were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go Maine!  Most of the people of Maine apparently realize that civil rights do not apply to behavior and that extending such rights to behavior, particularly behavior inconsistent with human survival and social harmony, would set a dangerous precedent.</p>
<p>The militant feminist lesbian war on traditional values, on traditional families, and on men and boys generally suffered a setback, but all people who care about the future of society and future of civilization need to keep on fighting.   </p>
<p>Sometimes it almost seems there is some genetic self-destruct mechanism that explains this insane movement to divide and weaken the human family, creating a risk of developing splinter groups of human beings who will never come together and will inevitably destroy each other through never-ending conflict.  Sometimes it just seems like bad luck that the successful struggle against racism would be followed by a destructive struggle by those who would misapply the lessons from that struggle in order to promote and celebrate exclusion (e.g. lesbians excluding men from their families and their company)  of those different from them.  And sometimes it seems  there must be some conspiracy of the corporatist elites who understand that gay marriage will further divide, distract, and confuse the masses, making them politically weak and ineffectual and less able to resist the social evolution from corporatism to full-blown fascism.</p>
<p>In any event, it was a great victory for the traditional family and for the whole human family in Maine.  It is critical that we give people in most of the US time to see the destructive power of gay marriage where it has been accepted before they decide to take that plunge and fundamentally alter their society forever.  Once it becomes legal, I am afraid there will be no going back as the lesbians will quickly alter the social rules so that we can never again get back to where we were.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/559/comment-page-1/#comment-9682</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen to yourself. You sound crazy. Motherhood, fatherhood, childhood, and marriage aren&#039;t under &quot;attack&quot;. Chill out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to yourself. You sound crazy. Motherhood, fatherhood, childhood, and marriage aren't under "attack". Chill out.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe...protect them from what? The scary gays that are the downfall of our society and cause catastrophes like Hurricane Katrina?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe...protect them from what? The scary gays that are the downfall of our society and cause catastrophes like Hurricane Katrina?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Lins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Lins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the legislators in New York and New Jersey looking at same-sex marriage bills, now is the time to meet outside the Capitols at Albany and Trenton!
Let&#039;s be heard.  Protect Motherhood - Protect Fatherhood - Protect Childhood - Protect Marriage!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the legislators in New York and New Jersey looking at same-sex marriage bills, now is the time to meet outside the Capitols at Albany and Trenton!<br />
Let's be heard.  Protect Motherhood - Protect Fatherhood - Protect Childhood - Protect Marriage!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/559/comment-page-1/#comment-9664</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is interesting, I mean, their harassment policy mentions BOTH Religion and Homosexuality. Shouldn’t she be fired for mentioning her view if he was fired for mentioning his?&quot;

It would seem that homosexuality is more equal than religion.  That is the gay activist&#039;s idea of civil rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"It is interesting, I mean, their harassment policy mentions BOTH Religion and Homosexuality. Shouldn’t she be fired for mentioning her view if he was fired for mentioning his?"</p>
<p>It would seem that homosexuality is more equal than religion.  That is the gay activist's idea of civil rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/559/comment-page-1/#comment-9663</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose signatures were being gathered for a state amendment on marriage in Massachusetts. Should people be fired for seeking signatures or for signing it? I mean, if you could get them fired, would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose signatures were being gathered for a state amendment on marriage in Massachusetts. Should people be fired for seeking signatures or for signing it? I mean, if you could get them fired, would you?</p>
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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Michael, it&#039;s the manager who kept pressing for compliance instead of the quiet tolerance that the newly-hired assistant manager respond with.

She was senior to him in the work relationship. She had power over him on that basis. She also exerted gay identity politics via the HR department to end his employment. The guy was vulnerable as a new hire anyway. If the HR department wants to hire and fire based on ths sort of stuff, then, the HR department should ask people for their views on SSM before they are employed. That way the litmus test can be upfront and honest.

Instead the manipulations are peddled as making others look bad.

Do you really think that this makes the manager and the HR department look good? Okay, then, you&#039;d do the same thing, right? Provoke discussion of SSM in the workplace and press identity politics into hire and fire decisions. Would you if you could?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Michael, it's the manager who kept pressing for compliance instead of the quiet tolerance that the newly-hired assistant manager respond with.</p>
<p>She was senior to him in the work relationship. She had power over him on that basis. She also exerted gay identity politics via the HR department to end his employment. The guy was vulnerable as a new hire anyway. If the HR department wants to hire and fire based on ths sort of stuff, then, the HR department should ask people for their views on SSM before they are employed. That way the litmus test can be upfront and honest.</p>
<p>Instead the manipulations are peddled as making others look bad.</p>
<p>Do you really think that this makes the manager and the HR department look good? Okay, then, you'd do the same thing, right? Provoke discussion of SSM in the workplace and press identity politics into hire and fire decisions. Would you if you could?</p>
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		<title>By: Two Cents</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/559/comment-page-1/#comment-9660</link>
		<dc:creator>Two Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting, I mean, their harassment policy mentions BOTH Religion and Homosexuality. Shouldn&#039;t she be fired for mentioning her view if he was fired for mentioning his?  Isn&#039;t this exactly what the Maine campaign was talking about?  (oh wait, you still think those were lies....)

So shouldn&#039;t we be asking—&quot;How Does Losing Your Freedom of Speech Affect Your Family?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting, I mean, their harassment policy mentions BOTH Religion and Homosexuality. Shouldn't she be fired for mentioning her view if he was fired for mentioning his?  Isn't this exactly what the Maine campaign was talking about?  (oh wait, you still think those were lies....)</p>
<p>So shouldn't we be asking—"How Does Losing Your Freedom of Speech Affect Your Family?"</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two Cents,

Who do you think looks bad in this story?  If you don&#039;t know, it&#039;s Vidala.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two Cents,</p>
<p>Who do you think looks bad in this story?  If you don't know, it's Vidala.</p>
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		<title>By: Two Cents</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/559/comment-page-1/#comment-9658</link>
		<dc:creator>Two Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A manager at a Massachusetts retail store claims he was unjustly fired after he told a colleague he thought her impending marriage to another woman was wrong.

Peter Vidala, 24, told FoxNews.com he was terminated in August from his position as second deputy manager at a Brookstone store at Boston&#039;s Logan Airport after a conversation he had with a manager from another Brookstone store who was visiting the location.

Vidala claims the woman, whom he declined to identify, mentioned four times that she had married her partner. He said he then left the store briefly to visit the airport&#039;s chapel before returning.

&quot;I found it offensive that she repeatedly brought it up,&quot; Vidala said. &quot;By the fourth time she mentioned it, I felt God wanted me to express how I felt about the matter, so I did. But my tone was downright apologetic. I said, &#039;Regarding your homosexuality, I think that&#039;s bad stuff.&#039;&quot;

The woman, according to Vidala, then said, &quot;Human resources, buddy — keep your opinions to yourself,&quot; before exiting the store.

Two days later, Vidala, who had been employed for just a matter of weeks, received a termination letter citing the company&#039;s zero-tolerance policy regarding &quot;harassment&quot; and &quot;inappropriate and unprofessional&quot; comments.

&quot;In the state of Massachusetts, same-sex marriage is legal and there will be people with whom you work with who have fiancées or spouses who are the same gender,&quot; the Aug. 12 letter read. &quot;... While you are entitled to your own beliefs, imposing them upon others in the workplace is not acceptable and in this case, by telling a colleague that she is deviant and immoral, constitutes discrimination and harassment.&quot;

Vidala disputes using the words &quot;deviant&quot; and &quot;immoral&quot; during conversations with human resources employees on the matter.

&quot;I did say I regard that lifestyle as deviant, as in deviating from the norm, but I never, ever said to that to the [manager],&quot; he said. &quot;In general, I believe people don&#039;t want to hear about controversial issues like that in the workplace. They shouldn&#039;t have to.&quot;

Vidala, who has not hired a lawyer, said he is considering filing a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

In a statement issued to FoxNews.com, Brookstone President/CEO Ron Boire said a &quot;thorough and fair investigation&quot; had been completed in the matter.

&quot;We do not comment on any specific personnel issues,&quot; the statement read. &quot;However I will say that Brookstone is an equal opportunity employer, meaning that we maintain a healthy, safe and productive work environment free from discrimination or harassment based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, physical or mental disability, or other factors that are unrelated to the Company’s legitimate business interests.

&quot;We are proud of our diverse workforce of varying cultural, ethnic, and religious backgrounds.&quot;

Asked why he felt the need to comment on the woman&#039;s personal life, Vidala, who has since left the Boston area, said he felt compelled to do so.

&quot;I see, like all real Christians, homosexuals as people who, like me, are sinners and need to be told the truth in a loving way,&quot; he said. &quot;In this situation, I took issue with the behavior. I think it&#039;s lunacy to call that type of behavior marriage in any kind of form. I had to express that I&#039;m intolerant of that behavior. It&#039;s a love-the-sinner, hate-the-sin kind of deal.&quot;

Vidala said he felt &quot;intentionally goaded&quot; by the manager to comment on her relationship.

&quot;She knew how I felt about homosexuality,&quot; he said. &quot;When you talk to someone about something like that, you want their support. She was kind of looking into my eyes for that social cue for me to say, &#039;I&#039;m happy for you.&#039; But I really couldn&#039;t feel happy for her.&quot;

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572862,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A manager at a Massachusetts retail store claims he was unjustly fired after he told a colleague he thought her impending marriage to another woman was wrong.</p>
<p>Peter Vidala, 24, told FoxNews.com he was terminated in August from his position as second deputy manager at a Brookstone store at Boston's Logan Airport after a conversation he had with a manager from another Brookstone store who was visiting the location.</p>
<p>Vidala claims the woman, whom he declined to identify, mentioned four times that she had married her partner. He said he then left the store briefly to visit the airport's chapel before returning.</p>
<p>"I found it offensive that she repeatedly brought it up," Vidala said. "By the fourth time she mentioned it, I felt God wanted me to express how I felt about the matter, so I did. But my tone was downright apologetic. I said, 'Regarding your homosexuality, I think that's bad stuff.'"</p>
<p>The woman, according to Vidala, then said, "Human resources, buddy — keep your opinions to yourself," before exiting the store.</p>
<p>Two days later, Vidala, who had been employed for just a matter of weeks, received a termination letter citing the company's zero-tolerance policy regarding "harassment" and "inappropriate and unprofessional" comments.</p>
<p>"In the state of Massachusetts, same-sex marriage is legal and there will be people with whom you work with who have fiancées or spouses who are the same gender," the Aug. 12 letter read. "... While you are entitled to your own beliefs, imposing them upon others in the workplace is not acceptable and in this case, by telling a colleague that she is deviant and immoral, constitutes discrimination and harassment."</p>
<p>Vidala disputes using the words "deviant" and "immoral" during conversations with human resources employees on the matter.</p>
<p>"I did say I regard that lifestyle as deviant, as in deviating from the norm, but I never, ever said to that to the [manager]," he said. "In general, I believe people don't want to hear about controversial issues like that in the workplace. They shouldn't have to."</p>
<p>Vidala, who has not hired a lawyer, said he is considering filing a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.</p>
<p>In a statement issued to FoxNews.com, Brookstone President/CEO Ron Boire said a "thorough and fair investigation" had been completed in the matter.</p>
<p>"We do not comment on any specific personnel issues," the statement read. "However I will say that Brookstone is an equal opportunity employer, meaning that we maintain a healthy, safe and productive work environment free from discrimination or harassment based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, national origin, physical or mental disability, or other factors that are unrelated to the Company’s legitimate business interests.</p>
<p>"We are proud of our diverse workforce of varying cultural, ethnic, and religious backgrounds."</p>
<p>Asked why he felt the need to comment on the woman's personal life, Vidala, who has since left the Boston area, said he felt compelled to do so.</p>
<p>"I see, like all real Christians, homosexuals as people who, like me, are sinners and need to be told the truth in a loving way," he said. "In this situation, I took issue with the behavior. I think it's lunacy to call that type of behavior marriage in any kind of form. I had to express that I'm intolerant of that behavior. It's a love-the-sinner, hate-the-sin kind of deal."</p>
<p>Vidala said he felt "intentionally goaded" by the manager to comment on her relationship.</p>
<p>"She knew how I felt about homosexuality," he said. "When you talk to someone about something like that, you want their support. She was kind of looking into my eyes for that social cue for me to say, 'I'm happy for you.' But I really couldn't feel happy for her."</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572862,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572862,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/559/comment-page-1/#comment-9655</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God the people of Maine voted this abomination down.  I don&#039;t care what arguments people come up with, at the end of the day, God said that it is an abomination for men to lay with men and that if you did it, your life would be forfeit.  So, even if you don&#039;t believe the Bible, believe what you see.  Anytime a gay person dies, it is almost always from AIDS or an AIDS related illness.  Of the 1.2 million cases of AIDS in America, over 800,000 are among homosexual men.  If any other group was dying of the same disease, you would have to examine the why.  The same week the homosexual community was planning a disgusting Southern Decadence festival in New Orleans, they got Katrina instead.  The Bible has many examples of places destroyed because of immorality and the scientists has proven the location of Sodom and Gomorrah, a place that to this day is still a desolate wasteland with balls of 98% pure silphur embedded in all the structures, just like the Bible said.   The fact that only one of the NY papers mentioned the defeat in Maine is because they are trying to pass that mess here in NY and it will be a cold day in hell before the people of God allow this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God the people of Maine voted this abomination down.  I don't care what arguments people come up with, at the end of the day, God said that it is an abomination for men to lay with men and that if you did it, your life would be forfeit.  So, even if you don't believe the Bible, believe what you see.  Anytime a gay person dies, it is almost always from AIDS or an AIDS related illness.  Of the 1.2 million cases of AIDS in America, over 800,000 are among homosexual men.  If any other group was dying of the same disease, you would have to examine the why.  The same week the homosexual community was planning a disgusting Southern Decadence festival in New Orleans, they got Katrina instead.  The Bible has many examples of places destroyed because of immorality and the scientists has proven the location of Sodom and Gomorrah, a place that to this day is still a desolate wasteland with balls of 98% pure silphur embedded in all the structures, just like the Bible said.   The fact that only one of the NY papers mentioned the defeat in Maine is because they are trying to pass that mess here in NY and it will be a cold day in hell before the people of God allow this.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyofGod</title>
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		<dc:creator>LadyofGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now we have a hate crimes law protecting homosexuals.  In California, the gays viciously persecuted anyone who donated to Prop 8, in other states they went into churchs and threw condoms, they hassled a little old lady for daring to have an opposite belief to their own and now they want to publish the names of anyone who donated to the campaigns in Washington and Maine so they can be targeted for harassment.  I think we see now who the real haters are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now we have a hate crimes law protecting homosexuals.  In California, the gays viciously persecuted anyone who donated to Prop 8, in other states they went into churchs and threw condoms, they hassled a little old lady for daring to have an opposite belief to their own and now they want to publish the names of anyone who donated to the campaigns in Washington and Maine so they can be targeted for harassment.  I think we see now who the real haters are.</p>
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