Comments on: Maine Update

By: Jennifer H.

Jennifer H. — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:10:52 +0000

Neutering marriage is just one more nail in the coffin for societal decline. Saying it can't be worse than rampant divorce is seriously exactly what people have been saying. Not only is SSM not good for society, it actually hurts society. There's nothing equal about neutering the future of marriage.

By: Amy

Amy — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:06:38 +0000

Kevin, if you're going to weigh court decisions, only a few activist courts have discovered the "right to marry anyone you choose regardless of the consequences to family, children and society...etc" newly found right that never before existed. You're going to have to do better than that. It's a contested issue to be certain but by sheer numbers, many more courts have found in favor of the marriage/child relationship than not. Children have the right to a mom and dad. Any rights you have to live the way you choose can't supersede the right of children to be raised by their parents.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:16:05 +0000

Samantha,

Any limitations on marriage have to be legally justified. That's why discriminatory marriage statutes are being found unconstitutional.

By: Samantha

Samantha — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:52:46 +0000

Kevin, Loving v. Virginia is not ubiquitous in interpretation. The right to marry indiscriminately is something you have spun from thin air.

There are plenty of courts who have stated that there are justifications for placing limitations on the institution of marriage. In previous conversations in these threads I see that you have tried to answer to the social concerns and failed. You're being disingenuous if you cannot now recall those very poignant points.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:44:24 +0000

Amy,

Yes there is a right to marry. The US Supreme has already stated so, in its 1967 decision, Loving v. Virginia.

And even if there weren’t a right to marry, the state can’t offer rights and privileges to some citizens, and not others, without justification. There’s no justification that appears to be impressing courts, who decide what’s legal and what’s unconstitutional.

By: Amy

Amy — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:47:46 +0000

there is no right to marry. If there were, you would not be able to restrict anyone from marrying.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:41:19 +0000

Homosexuals aren't asking for special rights, just equal rights. Homosexuals are asking for the right to marry, which heterosexuals already have.

By: Melbourne

Melbourne — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:44:23 +0000

Great article. Thank you.

By: Adam

Adam — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:41:42 +0000

Agreed George, Whoever did that shows intolerance. Maybe we need a hate crimes bill for traditional marriage proponents or something.

By: George Lee

George Lee — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:40:05 +0000

I remember they tried that swastika stuff in California too. They painted swastikas on houses of people who supported proposition 8 and the natural family. It's a sign of their intolerance for other's beliefs. Homosexuality is not a good basis for special rights above the rights of others.

By: Kevinn

Kevinn — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:09:47 +0000

Adam,

Individual contributions by supporters of marriage equality in Maine outnumber individual contributions by marriage discriminators by an order of magnitude. Since NOM refuses to divulge where its money comes from, in violation of the law, we can't know where NOM gets its money.

By: Raynd

Raynd — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:13:47 +0000

Swastikas Painted On 'Yes on One' Signs

PORTLAND - "Yes on One" political signs from Portland to Biddeford have been vandalized. The signs, advocating the repeal of a law legalizing gay marriage in Maine, are being defaced with spray-painted depictions of a cross, an equals sign, and a swastika, likening religious opposition to gay marriage to Nazism.

In a statement regarding the vandalism, Scott Fish, spokesman for the Yes on One campaign, said: "Given the consistent awful rhetoric of the No on One campaign, it is no surprise their supporters are acting in awful ways."

http://www.myfoxmaine.com/dpp/news/20091028_swastikas_painted_on_yes_on_one_signs

By: Adam

Adam — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:45:53 +0000

Actually if you look at the reports. The gay folks are gettng more support from out of state than traditional marriage folks. Gays brought in so much support its almost like the moved SF to Maine. Meanwhile the Traditional marriage folks have had to rely on small donations from everyday people living in Mainel

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:23:20 +0000

I think it's great that so many more Mainers decided to give to support marriage equality rather than marriage discrimination. Let's hope the votes reflect all the money Maine citizens gave in support of marriage equality!

By: Adam

Adam — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:58:35 +0000

I think its amazing that the race is dead even. Money doesn't buy an election, but it helps run ads and pays for support. It would be a big big big win for Maine if traditional marriage wins at the ballot box. Truly it would represent the people's interests and not the money considering the gay proponents more than doubled the pro marriage group.