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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:  If not, then &quot;being&quot; gay is as much a choice as what clothes you will wear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:  If not, then "being" gay is as much a choice as what clothes you will wear?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

Has the &quot;gay gene&quot; been discovered?  If not, then how is &quot;being&quot; gay no more a choice then what clothes you will wear?  Furthermore, if you are currently in a SS &quot;relationship,&quot; do you not have a choice to remain so?  Or are you saying that it is beyond your control to remain chaste?  If not, then what does that indicate about SS &quot;relationships?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>Has the "gay gene" been discovered?  If not, then how is "being" gay no more a choice then what clothes you will wear?  Furthermore, if you are currently in a SS "relationship," do you not have a choice to remain so?  Or are you saying that it is beyond your control to remain chaste?  If not, then what does that indicate about SS "relationships?"</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-9038</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lesbians have their own share of health problems, Gary.  THe Gay and Lesbian Medical Association admits that they have the highest risk factor for breast cancer than any other subset of women.  They have higher resks for cervical cancer, are more likely to be obese.  They have higher rates of bacterial vaginosis and hepatitis C too.

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianhealth/tp/HealthConcerns.htm

Also, it is safe to say that modern American society is more tolerant of the homosexual lifestyle than ever before.  So why is it that the rate of suicide amongst homosexuals is just as high now than in earlier decades?  Society often serves as a convenient scapegoat for the behavior and actions of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesbians have their own share of health problems, Gary.  THe Gay and Lesbian Medical Association admits that they have the highest risk factor for breast cancer than any other subset of women.  They have higher resks for cervical cancer, are more likely to be obese.  They have higher rates of bacterial vaginosis and hepatitis C too.</p>
<p><a href="http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianhealth/tp/HealthConcerns.htm" rel="nofollow">http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianhealth/tp/HealthConcerns.htm</a></p>
<p>Also, it is safe to say that modern American society is more tolerant of the homosexual lifestyle than ever before.  So why is it that the rate of suicide amongst homosexuals is just as high now than in earlier decades?  Society often serves as a convenient scapegoat for the behavior and actions of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-9027</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple questions, or rather general comments to make. 
First, I would like to talk about the simple phases we use to differenciate homosexuals and heterosexuals. 

Heterosexuals have relationships, homosexuals have sex.

Heterosexuals have lives, homosexuals have lifestyles. 

Heterosexuals have a moral vision, homosexuals have an agenda. 

See the difference, and what has become the focal point of homosexuality. Gay people have relationships just as straight people. They also have lives, and morals. 

Second, I would like to say that I am gay, and I would love to have children (either by a surrogate or adoption), and get married. What I have to say about people who don&#039;t believe in SSM: If you don&#039;t believe in it, then don&#039;t marry somebody of the same sex! It will have no effect on your marriage whatsoever. 

With regard to HIV/AIDs- If you are using this as an argument against homosexuality, the consider lesbians, who would be the safest people on earth, as far as AIDs is concerned. 

&quot;Homosexuals are also more likely to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies, and shortened life spans.&quot;

I just going to address suicidal tendencies. Usually teens right? If Im wrong please correct me. This occurs most likely because they are taught that homosexually is unnatural and wrong! This is completely false. It IS natural, and occurs in a large portion of the animal kingdom, including humans. We just want to get married, and have the same rights as everyone else. Thats what America is all about right? And just to mention, civil partnerships and for those of you who think that this is a good solution, let me remind you of the phrase &quot;separate but equal&quot; How did that pan out?

I do not want to offend anyone on here, but I just wanted to voice my opinion and I believe that marriage is sacred, and i desparately would like to participate one day. 

Being gay is not a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple questions, or rather general comments to make.<br />
First, I would like to talk about the simple phases we use to differenciate homosexuals and heterosexuals. </p>
<p>Heterosexuals have relationships, homosexuals have sex.</p>
<p>Heterosexuals have lives, homosexuals have lifestyles. </p>
<p>Heterosexuals have a moral vision, homosexuals have an agenda. </p>
<p>See the difference, and what has become the focal point of homosexuality. Gay people have relationships just as straight people. They also have lives, and morals. </p>
<p>Second, I would like to say that I am gay, and I would love to have children (either by a surrogate or adoption), and get married. What I have to say about people who don't believe in SSM: If you don't believe in it, then don't marry somebody of the same sex! It will have no effect on your marriage whatsoever. </p>
<p>With regard to HIV/AIDs- If you are using this as an argument against homosexuality, the consider lesbians, who would be the safest people on earth, as far as AIDs is concerned. </p>
<p>"Homosexuals are also more likely to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies, and shortened life spans."</p>
<p>I just going to address suicidal tendencies. Usually teens right? If Im wrong please correct me. This occurs most likely because they are taught that homosexually is unnatural and wrong! This is completely false. It IS natural, and occurs in a large portion of the animal kingdom, including humans. We just want to get married, and have the same rights as everyone else. Thats what America is all about right? And just to mention, civil partnerships and for those of you who think that this is a good solution, let me remind you of the phrase "separate but equal" How did that pan out?</p>
<p>I do not want to offend anyone on here, but I just wanted to voice my opinion and I believe that marriage is sacred, and i desparately would like to participate one day. </p>
<p>Being gay is not a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-8980</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>november 6th?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>november 6th?</p>
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		<title>By: marilee</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-8978</link>
		<dc:creator>marilee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go D.C.!

http://www.stand4marriagedc.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go D.C.!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stand4marriagedc.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.stand4marriagedc.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: marilee</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-8977</link>
		<dc:creator>marilee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flyer for the event is here: 

http://pfox.org/Stand4Marriage.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flyer for the event is here: </p>
<p><a href="http://pfox.org/Stand4Marriage.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://pfox.org/Stand4Marriage.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: marilee</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-8976</link>
		<dc:creator>marilee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the rally was moved to Oct 6th:

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8444&amp;posts=3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the rally was moved to Oct 6th:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8444&#038;posts=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8444&#038;posts=3</a></p>
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		<title>By: marilee</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-8974</link>
		<dc:creator>marilee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to hear as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd love to hear as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-8968</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone have links or reports about the Rally yesterday?  I am interested in how it turned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone have links or reports about the Rally yesterday?  I am interested in how it turned out.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-2/#comment-8964</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

What is normative about homosexuality?  If it is  just another expression of sexuality, as you suggest, then why aren&#039;t all expressions of sexuality seen as normative?  Because, no one was harmed?  At that, are there not victimless crimes where it is society at large that pays the price for rampant and wanton lasciviousness?

As I have posted before, are we not more than the sum of our parts?  If what I like/am attracted to is involuntary, then what does that say about what I don&#039;t like?  Is that involuntary as well?  If so, then we wouldn&#039;t be having this conversation then as, apparently, I cannot think for myself.  And if I can&#039;t think for myself, how can you get away with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>What is normative about homosexuality?  If it is  just another expression of sexuality, as you suggest, then why aren't all expressions of sexuality seen as normative?  Because, no one was harmed?  At that, are there not victimless crimes where it is society at large that pays the price for rampant and wanton lasciviousness?</p>
<p>As I have posted before, are we not more than the sum of our parts?  If what I like/am attracted to is involuntary, then what does that say about what I don't like?  Is that involuntary as well?  If so, then we wouldn't be having this conversation then as, apparently, I cannot think for myself.  And if I can't think for myself, how can you get away with it?</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-1/#comment-8963</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of what you say, Kevin, all the research shows that children are much better off being raised by a mom and a dad.  I have posted the links demonstrating this.  Ignore and disregard them all you want.

And even MassEquality, a pro gay activist group, acknowleges that the rate of HIV/AIDS cases have increased sice gay marriage has been legalized.  I have even given the link.  Are you going to call them liars too?

Given your stubborness in the face of facts and research, I can see that there is no breaking through your pro gay bias.  It&#039;s like arguing with a brick wall.  So this will be my last post on this thread.  I take comfort that others who read my posts here won&#039;t be as closed minded as you are.  

Adios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of what you say, Kevin, all the research shows that children are much better off being raised by a mom and a dad.  I have posted the links demonstrating this.  Ignore and disregard them all you want.</p>
<p>And even MassEquality, a pro gay activist group, acknowleges that the rate of HIV/AIDS cases have increased sice gay marriage has been legalized.  I have even given the link.  Are you going to call them liars too?</p>
<p>Given your stubborness in the face of facts and research, I can see that there is no breaking through your pro gay bias.  It's like arguing with a brick wall.  So this will be my last post on this thread.  I take comfort that others who read my posts here won't be as closed minded as you are.  </p>
<p>Adios.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/536/comment-page-1/#comment-8959</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My credibility remains very much in tact.&quot;

Only in your mind.  Especially when you indulge in the hypocricy of insisting that children have nothing to do with marriage yet use them to demonstrate the value of marriage (as if you can have it both ways) and comparing natural marriage to enslavement.

&quot;Gallagher advocates the value of marriage for couples yet inexplicably thinks this value should not be conferred on same-sex couples, and their children.&quot;

That is because all those research results in the article are based on male-female couples, not same sex couples.  And you know it!

&quot;Evidence, please, on Massachusetts’ rising HIV rates, and if this is due to homosexual or heterosexual promiscuity.&quot;

According th the Center for Disease Control, the vast , vast majority of all known AIDS cases were the result of homosexual contact.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2006report/table17.htm

That is because homosexuality is  the most efficient ways of transmitting the disease and is thus the reason why the number of HIV/AIDS cases have risen so dramatically in Massachusetts since its supreme court decided to encourage and promote this unhealthy vice.

But of course you want so badly for homosexual behavior to be the equal of heterosexuality that you will probably deny the evidence and attack the character of the researchers.  

Typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"My credibility remains very much in tact."</p>
<p>Only in your mind.  Especially when you indulge in the hypocricy of insisting that children have nothing to do with marriage yet use them to demonstrate the value of marriage (as if you can have it both ways) and comparing natural marriage to enslavement.</p>
<p>"Gallagher advocates the value of marriage for couples yet inexplicably thinks this value should not be conferred on same-sex couples, and their children."</p>
<p>That is because all those research results in the article are based on male-female couples, not same sex couples.  And you know it!</p>
<p>"Evidence, please, on Massachusetts’ rising HIV rates, and if this is due to homosexual or heterosexual promiscuity."</p>
<p>According th the Center for Disease Control, the vast , vast majority of all known AIDS cases were the result of homosexual contact.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2006report/table17.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2006report/table17.htm</a></p>
<p>That is because homosexuality is  the most efficient ways of transmitting the disease and is thus the reason why the number of HIV/AIDS cases have risen so dramatically in Massachusetts since its supreme court decided to encourage and promote this unhealthy vice.</p>
<p>But of course you want so badly for homosexual behavior to be the equal of heterosexuality that you will probably deny the evidence and attack the character of the researchers.  </p>
<p>Typical.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My credibility remains very much in tact. Gallagher advocates the value of marriage for couples yet inexplicably thinks this value should not be conferred on same-sex couples, and their children. 

Evidence, please, on Massachusetts&#039; rising HIV rates, and if this is due to homosexual or heterosexual promiscuity. Your credibility is on the line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My credibility remains very much in tact. Gallagher advocates the value of marriage for couples yet inexplicably thinks this value should not be conferred on same-sex couples, and their children. </p>
<p>Evidence, please, on Massachusetts' rising HIV rates, and if this is due to homosexual or heterosexual promiscuity. Your credibility is on the line!</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have considered it beneath you, Kevin, to misrepresent and pervert Maggie Gallagher&#039;s article to make it seem that she is advocating SSM when it is clear to anyone with an ounce of reading comprehension that she is advocating a family setting that consists of a man and a woman sustained by marriage.  

You know just as well as I do that she opposes SSM and yet you have the gall to pass off her writings as an advocation of same sex matrimony?

That is decietful, dishonest, and destroys the last of your credibility.

P.S. The significantly increased HIV/AIDS rate in Massachusetts since the state supreme court imposed SSM punches a huge hole in your notion that SSM promotes homosexual monogamy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have considered it beneath you, Kevin, to misrepresent and pervert Maggie Gallagher's article to make it seem that she is advocating SSM when it is clear to anyone with an ounce of reading comprehension that she is advocating a family setting that consists of a man and a woman sustained by marriage.  </p>
<p>You know just as well as I do that she opposes SSM and yet you have the gall to pass off her writings as an advocation of same sex matrimony?</p>
<p>That is decietful, dishonest, and destroys the last of your credibility.</p>
<p>P.S. The significantly increased HIV/AIDS rate in Massachusetts since the state supreme court imposed SSM punches a huge hole in your notion that SSM promotes homosexual monogamy.</p>
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