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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8518</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, your, at best, incomplete, description of how the AIDS epidemic started is a classic example of politically correct lunacy pervasive in this country.  Just to educate you, a homosexual man, infected with HIV via bestiality, introduced the HIV virus into the homosexual community.  Homosexuals, through anal intercourse, particularly conducive in transfer of blood and feces borne diseases, took it from there.  

Homosexual men are still, nearly 30 years later, the greatest contributors to the AIDS epidemic in this country.  Not to mention syphilis, gonorrhea, hepatitis, etc.  Really healthy lifestyle.  Something that we should endorse, encourage and promote through the farce of homosexual  &quot;marriage.&quot;  

If you are a heterosexual supporting homosexual &quot;marriage&quot;, you are either out of your mind or you are being handsomly paid for your support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, your, at best, incomplete, description of how the AIDS epidemic started is a classic example of politically correct lunacy pervasive in this country.  Just to educate you, a homosexual man, infected with HIV via bestiality, introduced the HIV virus into the homosexual community.  Homosexuals, through anal intercourse, particularly conducive in transfer of blood and feces borne diseases, took it from there.  </p>
<p>Homosexual men are still, nearly 30 years later, the greatest contributors to the AIDS epidemic in this country.  Not to mention syphilis, gonorrhea, hepatitis, etc.  Really healthy lifestyle.  Something that we should endorse, encourage and promote through the farce of homosexual  "marriage."  </p>
<p>If you are a heterosexual supporting homosexual "marriage", you are either out of your mind or you are being handsomly paid for your support.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8516</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ladyk, from my earlier post you come up with:

&quot;I’m sorry. I don’t follow your logic,  The law doesn’t believe in God, Not all Christians believe in God, ergo, I hate gays?&quot;

So you assert that you have to believe that gays are immoral to believe in God?  Your way or the highway? 

Again, your religious viewpoints are, well, are yours. They have absolutely nothing to do with civil law. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ladyk, from my earlier post you come up with:</p>
<p>"I’m sorry. I don’t follow your logic,  The law doesn’t believe in God, Not all Christians believe in God, ergo, I hate gays?"</p>
<p>So you assert that you have to believe that gays are immoral to believe in God?  Your way or the highway? </p>
<p>Again, your religious viewpoints are, well, are yours. They have absolutely nothing to do with civil law. </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8515</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ladyk, 

This statement of yours says volumes.  

&quot;Some people who experience same sex attraction identify so completely with their moral ideas and actions that they say they “ARE” their moral choices. I don’t find that to be an accurate description.&quot;

love the sinner not the sin is not acceptable, and still has nothing to do with civic law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ladyk, </p>
<p>This statement of yours says volumes.  </p>
<p>"Some people who experience same sex attraction identify so completely with their moral ideas and actions that they say they “ARE” their moral choices. I don’t find that to be an accurate description."</p>
<p>love the sinner not the sin is not acceptable, and still has nothing to do with civic law.</p>
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		<title>By: ladyk</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8514</link>
		<dc:creator>ladyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point was that you are not your sexuality.  You are a human being.  In my faith, you are a child of God.  There is no hate there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point was that you are not your sexuality.  You are a human being.  In my faith, you are a child of God.  There is no hate there.</p>
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		<title>By: ladyk</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8513</link>
		<dc:creator>ladyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the eyes of the law, gays are not deemed immoral. In fact, not all christians believe gays are immoral. So you are wrong to assert that this isn’t a fight against people, you very well intend to target gays as less than worthy of rights afforded to others.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry.  I don&#039;t follow your logic.  
The law doesn&#039;t believe in God
Not all Christians believe in God
ergo
I hate gays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"In the eyes of the law, gays are not deemed immoral. In fact, not all christians believe gays are immoral. So you are wrong to assert that this isn’t a fight against people, you very well intend to target gays as less than worthy of rights afforded to others."</p>
<p>I'm sorry.  I don't follow your logic.<br />
The law doesn't believe in God<br />
Not all Christians believe in God<br />
ergo<br />
I hate gays?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8512</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ladyk,

I think you are confused on several levels. In the eyes of the law, gays are not deemed immoral. In fact, not all christians believe gays are immoral. So you are wrong to assert that this isn&#039;t a fight against people, you very well intend to target gays as less than worthy of rights afforded to others.

The intent to defame is quite evident in the postings here. If I were to use Samantha&#039;s logic, every &quot;Girls Gone Crazy&quot; video is evidence that all woman are promiscuous women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ladyk,</p>
<p>I think you are confused on several levels. In the eyes of the law, gays are not deemed immoral. In fact, not all christians believe gays are immoral. So you are wrong to assert that this isn't a fight against people, you very well intend to target gays as less than worthy of rights afforded to others.</p>
<p>The intent to defame is quite evident in the postings here. If I were to use Samantha's logic, every "Girls Gone Crazy" video is evidence that all woman are promiscuous women.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8503</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this must be upsetting.....

Judge in Gay Marriage Case: Ability to Procreate Not Required

The battle over California’s gay marriage ban is set to continue at least through January.

The WSJ’s Geoffrey Fowler reports that today in San Francisco, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker refused to grant a motion from backers of the ban, known as Prop. 8, to throw out a constitutional challenge to it filed earlier this year.
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There goes that whole, &quot;it&#039;s all about making babies&quot; argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this must be upsetting.....</p>
<p>Judge in Gay Marriage Case: Ability to Procreate Not Required</p>
<p>The battle over California’s gay marriage ban is set to continue at least through January.</p>
<p>The WSJ’s Geoffrey Fowler reports that today in San Francisco, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker refused to grant a motion from backers of the ban, known as Prop. 8, to throw out a constitutional challenge to it filed earlier this year.<br />
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<p>There goes that whole, "it's all about making babies" argument.</p>
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		<title>By: ladyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse, your fallback position is that we&#039;re all about hate, but opposing gay marriage has nothing to do with fighting people. It has to do with fighting ideas. Some people who experience same sex attraction identify so completely with their moral ideas and actions that they say they “ARE” their moral choices. I don’t find that to be an accurate description. Who you ARE is a person, a human being, a child of God. Nothing can change that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse, your fallback position is that we're all about hate, but opposing gay marriage has nothing to do with fighting people. It has to do with fighting ideas. Some people who experience same sex attraction identify so completely with their moral ideas and actions that they say they “ARE” their moral choices. I don’t find that to be an accurate description. Who you ARE is a person, a human being, a child of God. Nothing can change that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8500</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura: AIDS did not  originate from homosexual activity. That is a very ignorant thought. It originated in Africa from a now extinct species of primate. It manifested itself on Africans first, then the early 80&#039;s gay male population.  Just need to set that fact, as I am a microbiologist, and have studied the virus for 20 years, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura: AIDS did not  originate from homosexual activity. That is a very ignorant thought. It originated in Africa from a now extinct species of primate. It manifested itself on Africans first, then the early 80's gay male population.  Just need to set that fact, as I am a microbiologist, and have studied the virus for 20 years, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8499</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any heterosexual person who supports homosexual marriage must be out of his or her mind. 

I can understand insecure homosexuals, living in their own make-belief world,  desperately trying to prove that they are just like everybody else.  For them, their homosexuality is the essence of their existence.  They do not care about the social consequences of their annihilistic and hedonistic crusade.  They do not care about the kids who are deprived of a mom or dad from the start.  They do not care about the mixed messages sent to our children about sexuality and about the importance of having a mom AND a dad.  In fact, a complete transformation of our world in accordance with their own hedonistic and annihilistic vision is their ultimate goal.

If the AIDS epidemic, which originated from homosexual activity, did not open people&#039;s eyes, what is it going to take?  The annihilation of the entire human race -- just because we are too stupid/politically correct to say enough is enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any heterosexual person who supports homosexual marriage must be out of his or her mind. </p>
<p>I can understand insecure homosexuals, living in their own make-belief world,  desperately trying to prove that they are just like everybody else.  For them, their homosexuality is the essence of their existence.  They do not care about the social consequences of their annihilistic and hedonistic crusade.  They do not care about the kids who are deprived of a mom or dad from the start.  They do not care about the mixed messages sent to our children about sexuality and about the importance of having a mom AND a dad.  In fact, a complete transformation of our world in accordance with their own hedonistic and annihilistic vision is their ultimate goal.</p>
<p>If the AIDS epidemic, which originated from homosexual activity, did not open people's eyes, what is it going to take?  The annihilation of the entire human race -- just because we are too stupid/politically correct to say enough is enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8491</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since one of the aims of marriage as an institution is to encourage the best for children, forcing children into sub-par relationships would infringe on their rights would it not?  Calling it equal doesn&#039;t make it so.  Children do not get to choose, they are the ones being denied one gender&#039;s parental role by design.  If your parents are divorced, or if one has died, then other relatives try to step in to fill the void, and kids are flexible, they can adjust in most cases.  However, putting kids in a situation where they have to adjust isn&#039;t equal for them.  It comes down to weighing kids rights over adult&#039;s preferences.  I have not been convinced that SSM can do the job that marriage does for children, and the price is too high to experiment with.

Wouldn&#039;t it be better to allow adults the freedom to be with who they choose to and pursue the missing legal advantages separate from marriage?  Colorado has recently adopted a plan I think is quite a good one.  It gives benefits to any significant relationship between adults living in the same home.  It could be a grandmother living with her college age granddaughter, or two lesbians, or three elderly sisters.  It gives government protection and encouragement not because of the potential for the creation of children, but because of the stability created when people have loving charge over one another.  Utah has a similar law.  I hope it spreads because committed people deserve rights and privileges.  That&#039;s a cause I can get behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since one of the aims of marriage as an institution is to encourage the best for children, forcing children into sub-par relationships would infringe on their rights would it not?  Calling it equal doesn't make it so.  Children do not get to choose, they are the ones being denied one gender's parental role by design.  If your parents are divorced, or if one has died, then other relatives try to step in to fill the void, and kids are flexible, they can adjust in most cases.  However, putting kids in a situation where they have to adjust isn't equal for them.  It comes down to weighing kids rights over adult's preferences.  I have not been convinced that SSM can do the job that marriage does for children, and the price is too high to experiment with.</p>
<p>Wouldn't it be better to allow adults the freedom to be with who they choose to and pursue the missing legal advantages separate from marriage?  Colorado has recently adopted a plan I think is quite a good one.  It gives benefits to any significant relationship between adults living in the same home.  It could be a grandmother living with her college age granddaughter, or two lesbians, or three elderly sisters.  It gives government protection and encouragement not because of the potential for the creation of children, but because of the stability created when people have loving charge over one another.  Utah has a similar law.  I hope it spreads because committed people deserve rights and privileges.  That's a cause I can get behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8490</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>screaming &quot;HATE&quot; in a crowded forum is hardly a replacement for thought, reason and debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>screaming "HATE" in a crowded forum is hardly a replacement for thought, reason and debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/516/comment-page-2/#comment-8489</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has hate got to do with anything Jesse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has hate got to do with anything Jesse?</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that this web site exists is exactly why they needed the D.C. March on Equality. Wow, with all that Sam has written, is she really THIS fixated on assaulting poor gays and lesbians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that this web site exists is exactly why they needed the D.C. March on Equality. Wow, with all that Sam has written, is she really THIS fixated on assaulting poor gays and lesbians?</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading some comments, i can see why pro-marriage advocates do what they do. The anti-gays keep on attacking not only with religion, but with H8! Just like in these comments! Any rude response will prove me correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading some comments, i can see why pro-marriage advocates do what they do. The anti-gays keep on attacking not only with religion, but with H8! Just like in these comments! Any rude response will prove me correct.</p>
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