http://www.humanlifereview.com/index.php/archives/59-2011-winter-spring/127-the-problems-of-perry-exposing-the-flaws-of-its-assault-on-traditional-marriage

The Ninth Circuit's retreat, attempting to limit the case to a more narrow Equal Protection challenge based on California's supposed "change" of the law, is a clever ploy to try to win over Justice Kennedy, but is flawed in other ways, as Cooper well points out. Interested readers might also see my follow-up piece in the Human Life Reviiew.

http://www.humanlifereview.com/index.php/component/content/article/66-summer-2012/186-the-problems-of-perry-an-update

Brilliant! This is going to be good.

SSMers cheered when the President dropped his defense of DOMA. I'm sure they were really riding high when he began to use taxpayer dollars to undermine the law in court. But they did not consider that such a move would totally demolish the already suspect claim that gays and lesbians lack political power.

SSMers are attempting to rack up legislative victories in the next few weeks, hoping that such victories will sway SCOTUS. I don't think even 15 states with ssm would move SCOTUS to overturn the laws of the remaining majority; but any legislative victories in the meantime would only serve to reaffirm that gays and lesbians are far from political powerlessness, and have more than enough ability to attract the attention of lawmakers.

The consequences of sin are automatic, and not even repentance can avoid the consequences. Abuse affects later generations.

The slavery remorse is being used to drive USA to the ideology of socialism. The genetically selected 'sons' of slaves are still being used and abused by Liberals. And they can't see it. It's payback time, folks. Obama is not really black, in spirit nor descended from slavery. We've been duped, because humanity in masses always searches for something to believe in. Something, anything. . .

Three cheers for Chuck Cooper and Andy Pugno; their steadfast defense of Prop 8 these past four years, in the face of a hostile and corrupt Federal Judiciary, has been nothing short of amazing.

Thanks for giving us hope in our darkest hour Gentlemen - you too Brian.

It is a little like the bizarre remarks of politicians in a European city -- I think it is was Holland -- who had passed a local law permitting same-sex sexual behavior in a central public park. Apparently this was also about equal dignity.

Obama could have cited some other big event or pivotal moment for the "gay rights movement" but, no, he cited rioters.

Rioters uided, he fantasized, by the example of the Founders who stood with the Declaration of Independence which said something about moral truth, liberty, natural law and self-evident rights, rather than moral falsehoods, libertinism, relativism, and self-indulgent wrongs.

It is a little like the bizarre remarks of politicians in a European city -- I think it is was Holland -- who had passed a local law permitting same-sex sexual behavior in a central public park. Apparently this was also about equal dignity.

Obama could have cited some other big event or pivotal moment for the "gay rights movement" but, no, he cited rioters. Guided by the example of the Founders who wrote and signed the Declaration of Independence which said something about natural law and self-evident rights, rather than self-indulgent wrongs.

The president pays a lot of lip service to caring about the children, even going so far as to use them as props and have them read letters they didn't write on national television. But when it comes to giving children the ideal environment of one mother and one father, he proves that he doesn't give one whit.

It's helpful to remember that the president doesn't mean anything he says. It's all political calculation, designed to move us one step at a time toward his socialist dystopia. You know he's lying because his lips are moving.

What was the careful description of that right?

The relationship of “husband and wife” is “founded in nature, but modified by civil society: the one directing man to continue
and multiply his species, the other in which that natural impulse must be confined and regulated.”

1 William Blackstone, Commentaries *410.

“the establishment of marriage in all civilized states is built on this natural obligation of the father to provide for his children”

id. at *35.

Marriage is “is made by a voluntary compact between man and woman.”

John Locke, Second Treatise of Civil Government § 78 (1690)

For the end of conjunction, between male and female, being not barely procreation, but the continuation of the species; this conjunction betwixt male and female ought to last, even after procreation, so long as is necessary to the nourishment and support of the young ones, who are to be sustained even after procreation, so long as is necessary to the nourishment and support of the young ones, who are to be sustained by those that got them, till they are able to shift and provide for themselves.

id. at § 79

Marriage “was instituted … for the purpose of preventing the promiscuous intercourse of the sexes, for promoting domestic felicity, and for securing the maintenance and education of children”

Noah Webster, An American Dictionary of the English Language
(1st ed. ) (1828)

"Marriage between two persons of one sex could have no validity, as none of the ends of matrimony could be accomplished thereby. It has always, therefore, been deemed requisite to the entire validity of every marriage . . . that the parties should be of different sex.”

Joel Prentiss Bishop, Commentaries on the Law of Marriage
& Divorce § 225 (1st ed. 1852), quoted in Defendant Sally Howe Smith’s Cross-Motion for Summary Judgment
and Brief in Support With Consolidated Opposition to Plaintiff’s Motion
for Summary Judgment, Bishop v. United States, 04-CV-848-TCK-TLW (N.D. Okla.), at 18

Marriage is a “ contract, made in due form of law, by which a man and woman reciprocally engage to live with each other during their joint lives, and to discharge towards each other the duties imposed by law on the relation of husband and wife.”

John Bouvier, A Law
Dictionary Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United
States
105 (1868)

“For certainly no legislation can be supposed more wholesome and necessary in the founding of a free, self-governing commonwealth, fit to take rank as one of the coordinate states of the Union, than that which seeks to establish it on the basis of the idea of the family, as consisting in and springing from the union for life of one man and one woman in the holy estate of matrimony; the sure foundation of all that is stable and noble in our civilization; the best guarantee of that reverent morality which is the source of all beneficent progress in social and political improvement. ”

Murphy v. Ramsey, 114 U.S. 15 at 45 (1885), quoted in
Davis v. Beason, 133 U.S. 333 at 344, 345 (1890) ,
United States v. Bitty , 208 U.S. 393 at 401 (1908), and Windsor v. United States, 699 F.3d 169 at 205 (2nd Cir. Sep. 27, 2012) (Straub, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part)

Nobody here is asking you to change. You are the one demanding the world change; that all of human history be changed just so you can live with yourself for a choice you cannot even bring yourself to take responsibility for.

If you truly believed what you are championing were acceptable you would not be demanding it be declared to be that which it is incapable of ever becoming.

The Emperor has no clothes.

And its not a tactical ploy; its the nuts and bolts of this issue.
But you're going to get the marriage corruption crowd very upset if you stop talking about homosexuals. All their divergent arguments have been built around them.

Children's best interests; even homosexual's will get on board to help fight for the best interest of children - its only human.