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Baptist Press: Poll: 60% of Voters Back Traditional Marriage

 

The Baptist Press:

Despite four victories by gay marriage supporters on Election Day, a solid majority of voters nationwide still believe marriage is between one man and one woman, according to a new poll.

The survey by the Polling Company shows that 60 percent of voters in this year's election agreed that "marriage is between one man and one woman." Fifty-one percent agreed strongly. All total, 34 percent disagreed with the statement.

The poll of 800 people who voted either on Election Day or who voted early was conducted Nov. 7.

30 Comments

  1. Dan
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Baptist Press poll on marriage? WTF? Hilarious, you people. Let's see the poll from a gay newspaper to see the opposite result.

  2. Dan
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    By the way, the implication of saying you support traditional marriage is code word for: I hate gay people. If you had said: I support white schools the implication is you hate black people. Let's get real here. And, don't forget that gays support heterosexual marriage. This is not a competition and gays aren't out to steal marriage. When will you people grow up?

  3. OvercameSSA
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Dan said, "by the way, the implication of saying you support traditional marriage is code word for: I hate gay people. "

    Dan's credibility just dropped to zero. For a guy who likes to reference "science," he's very emotional and presumptuous. It's that suspended adolescence that social scientists (yes, Dan, your buddies) associate with homosexuality.

    Let's get real here: I support traditional marriage because kids should have the best shot at being brought up by their moms and dads, and the marriage commitment is designed to accomplish that objective. I don't hate homosexuals; I think their lifestyle is dangerous and self-absorbed, and I think that research dollars should be devoted to finding a prevention and cure for this devastating mental condition. That's what the APA was trying to do before the homosexuals inflltrated the organization and decided that they preferred to be different and counter-cultural. Now they want to be like heterosexuals; confused and sad. I don't hate them; I feel sorry for them.

  4. Daniel Birkholz
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    I'm sure this poll was conducted in BFE Texas! Hysterical!!

  5. Barb Chamberlan
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    It's instructive to read the comments from pseudo-marriage supporters.

    Their fallback rule is this: supporting marriage = H8.

  6. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    The black community is the most church principled and culturally conservative ethnic group in the country. It makes sense that an overwhelming majority of them believe Marriage is between a man and a woman.

  7. Layne
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    In other news, nearly 60% of Catholics support marriage equality.

    OUCH!! The Catholic Church pours millions into fighting it and they can't even get their own followers to do their bidding (vote against Obama, vote against marriage equality, etc.)....

  8. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    @Layne

    Look at the numbers, are those people who just say they're Catholics or are they people who actually practice the religion? There is a difference.

  9. Layne
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Zack: Please draw the difference for me. Catholics are NOT evangelicals, i.e. they don't sit around all day obsessing over pre-marital sex, divorce, abortion or the LGBT community.

    Yes, those are all "sins" according to the Catholic Church, but the Catholics I grew up around in the Northeast have far more of a "live and let live" mentality than the Santorum-esque evangelicals in the rest of the country.

    It's no accident that Obama took the Catholic vote two elections in a row. While the Catholic leadership hasn't evolved with the times, most Catholics in the country closed the book on divorce, abortion, and homosexuality decades ago...along with the rest of the country.

    ...Why do you think that is?

  10. MarkOH
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Zack, how do you tell the difference?

  11. SC Guy
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    i have no doubt that a majority of Americans still support traditional marriage. Just look at how wrong most of the polls were leading up to the narrow wins for gay marriage in Washington, Maryland and Maine. They scraped by in the final vote while many pre-election surveys found them leading by wide margins.

  12. MarkOH
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    SC Guy, the polls that were wrong were the ones saying Romney was going to win and that the issues to allow marriage equality were going to fail. The Pew and Gallop polls show an ever increasing percentage of Americans support marriage equality.

  13. LonesomeRhoades
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    To #2 Dan: Too bad you equate truth telling to hate. Always demonize your adversary.
    You are the people who want to radically alter marriage.
    You have your civil unions but that just isn't enough is it? You will never rest til your aberrant lifestyle is seen as just another way of living. But ultimately it can't because you see, man was made for woman and woman made for man. That's truth. I wonder if you hate nature?

  14. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    @Layne and MarkOH

    "Please draw the difference for me. Catholics are NOT evangelicals, i.e. they don't sit around all day obsessing over pre-marital sex, divorce, abortion or the LGBT community. "

    True, but there are evangelical Catholics and they don't vote Democrat. It's quite simple, just saying you're a catholic doesn't mean you go to church, you attend mass, you pray nor does it mean you take the bible seriously. I'm Jewish but I don't practice the faith. People who take their faith seriously(i.e born again Christians, evangelicals, orthodox etc.) do not support redefining Marriage.

    So what if times change? What does that have to do with writing policy? There are over 10 million illegals in this country, does that mean they should be given the right to vote despite the fact they haven't earned it by becoming citizens?

    And there is no such thing as "Santorum-esque" evangelicals. You give that man too much credit.

  15. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    @Layne and MarkOH

    "Please draw the difference for me. Catholics are NOT evangelicals, i.e. they don't sit around all day obsessing over pre-marital sex, divorce, abortion or the LGBT community. "

    True, but there are evangelical Catholics and they don't vote Democrat. It's quite simple, just saying you're a catholic doesn't mean you go to church, you attend mass, you pray nor does it mean you take the bible seriously. I'm Jewish but I don't practice the faith. People who take their faith seriously(i.e born again Christians, evangelicals, orthodox etc.) do not support redefining Marriage.

  16. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    @Layne and MarkOH

    "Please draw the difference for me. Catholics are NOT evangelicals, i.e. they don't sit around all day obsessing over pre-marital sex, divorce, abortion or the LGBT community. "

    True, but there are evangelical Catholics and they don't vote Democrat. It's quite simple, just saying you're a catholic doesn't mean you go to church, you attend mass, you pray nor does it mean you take the bible seriously.

  17. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    @Layne and MarkOH

    "Please draw the difference for me. Catholics are NOT evangelicals, i.e. they don't sit around all day obsessing over pre-marital sex, divorce, abortion or the LGBT community. "

    True, but there are evangelical Catholics and they don't vote Democrat.

  18. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    I'm Jewish but I don't practice the faith. People who take their faith seriously(i.e born again Christians, evangelicals, orthodox etc.) do not support redefining Marriage.

  19. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    So what if times change? What does that have to do with writing policy? There are over 10 million illegals in this country, does that mean they should be given the right to vote despite the fact they haven't earned it by becoming citizens?

    And there is no such thing as "Santorum-esque" evangelicals. You give that man too much credit.

  20. Curious George
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    You have your civil unions but that just isn't enough is it?

    That is just laughable LR.
    There are states that don't recognize any rights for same sex couples (NC right a bell)?
    CU are only binding on the government that recognizes them. Companies don't have to recognize them for purposes of insurance or other benefits.
    And why is separate but equal acceptable in this instance when it was never acceptable in other instances.

  21. Curious George
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    In addition, CU (or DP) vary from state to state in terms of the benefits they bring, whereas marriage benefits are pretty universal.

  22. Zack
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    @curious george

    "There are states that don't recognize any rights for same sex couples (NC right a bell)?"

    They can still sign a private contract(like a will) that states what benefits and rights each partner gets in the union.

    "And why is separate but equal acceptable in this instance when it was never acceptable in other instances."

    Only "separate but equal" doesn't apply to same-sex couples since the union isn't the same as a male/female union.

  23. John B.
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Only 60%? I don't know of anybody who doesn't support "traditional marriage" but this isn't an either/or proposition, you know. It's possible to support "traditional marriage" while also supporting same-sex marriage. Heck, my parents, my siblings, and a whole bunch of my friends, neighbors, and co-workers are in traditional marriages. I'm happy for them and I will do whatever I can to support them. What I don't support is trying to force gay people into "traditional" marriages that would be nothing more than shams. I've known too many people who have come out of such marriages (and in some cases are still in them). They are fair to neither party involved.

  24. John B.
    Posted November 15, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    BTW I find it rather funny that NOM is so earnestly touting this poll when they were so very, very wrong about the polls before the election. NOM kept claiming the only poll that really counts is an election and we all saw how that turned out. Why should anybody trust any poll NOM cites now? More importantly, why should anybody trust NOM with their money when NOM have proven themselves to be so ineffective and inconsequential?

  25. OvercameSSA
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    JohnB says, "What I don't support is trying to force gay people into "traditional" marriages that would be nothing more than shams."

    I agree, JohnB; no one should be forced into marriage. But I see nothing wrong with a person who has same-sex attraction to take and adhere to marriage vows with a person of the opposite sex, have kids and live happily ever after. Happens all the time.

    If you believe that one can only be happy by acting on their sexual urges, then you have no idea what life is about. Indeed, many religious men and women have lived happy, fulfilled celibate lives, as do many men and women who live in sex-less marriages. Our society is strangely obsessed with sex.

    Marriage is a commitment; there is no promise of happiness. We make our own happiness.

  26. Zack
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    @Overcame

    "Our society is strangely obsessed with sex.

    Marriage is a commitment; there is no promise of happiness. We make our own happiness."

    Great last lines.

  27. Zack
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    I apologize for the repeating posts.

  28. roger
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    We need to junk the Term "Traditional" Marriage. It implies Marriage is just a construct; whatever we say it is. Organic Marriage or Natural Marriage imply a created reality that we can not change.

  29. Randy E King
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    I prefer the term "Authentic Marriage."

    SSM is faux marriage; a fa├žade intended to lend an appearance of acceptability to sexual depravity.

  30. Posted November 19, 2012 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Strong argument FOR traditional Marriage...Read it in "Land of Diminished Distinctions" from Amazon!