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Washington State Bishop Urges Catholics to Reject Gay Marriage

 

An excerpt from his statement sent to all parishes in the Catholic diocese of Spokane:

"...My genuine hope is that we all can value the coming vote on Referendum 74 as an opportunity to have a substantial public debate regarding this critical issue, carried on with respect, honesty and conviction. When addressing issues of depth and passion – indeed, most importantly at such times – we should be committed to the proposition that our public dialogue must be marked by civility and clarity, and that it should generate light rather than heat. As a means of contributing to that effort, I ask your careful consideration of the attached reflections which outline some of the reasons for the Catholic Church’s position recommending that citizens vote “reject” on Referendum 74, and thus overturn the law that redefines marriage. I offer these thoughts with respect, but also out of a sense of duty to contribute to the debate for the good of our state."

16 Comments

  1. Preserve Marriage
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    There is one thing the people in Washington, Maryland and Maine need to consider. If they allow same-sex "marriage" to become law, and subsequently restore the true meaning of marriage in the law, the courts may rule that you can't take away a right from a group of people once you have given it to them.

    That's what a two-judge majority ruled, in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, in California.

    These battles, for the minds and the turnout of the voters, must be won.

    The homosexual special rights activists have been using their influence over state education departments. They've been working on the minds of impressionable children for years, and it's working.

    Gay journalists have been propagandizing the nation for a lot longer than that.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/10/us/gay-journalists-leading-a-revolution.html?pagewanted=all

    Reversing the damage the SSM lobby did in six states and DC will be difficult.

  2. Jeff
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    @P.M. - difficult, but it will take time to undo the damage.

  3. Posted August 12, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Preserving, it will be difficult indeed.

    Our society has been seriously damaged by its inability to defeat the counterfeiters of marriage.

    They are very smart, very committed, and they have excellent layers.

    What they do not understand, is what parents will, ultimately, do to protect their children.

    If they had any idea of what the consequences of their "victory" would be, they would back off.

    Now.

    They won't.

    That is most unfortunate for everyone.

  4. Preserve Marriage
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    I was at the bank the other day and the teller quietly said to me that "they're causing a lot of trouble."

    I think that the money keeps flowing to homosexual special rights organizations, so they have to keep bribing and lobbying or get another job.

    What homosexuals may not be appreciating, is the possibility of a backlash.

    Marriage is very important to a lot of people.

    Neither Joe Sixpack, his wife, nor Juan Pérez *know* that public schoolteachers and anti-bullying people are indoctrinating or brainwashing their kids at school.

    If some precipitating factor wakes up this sleeping giant, like it did on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, homosexual special rights lobbyists' own successes could result in a monumental, antagonistic reaction.

  5. Claude
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Rights and freedoms for LGBTs are not "special rights", but "equal rights".

    Wow! Both Rick and Preserve M. are threatening an anti-gay backlash, if a majority of Washingtonians vote in favor of marriage equality.

    Preserve M. talks of money being spent by the pro-equality movement. There is a lot of money also being spent by the anti-equality movement.

  6. Claude
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    You will note that if the marriage equality side wins, a lot of heterosexuals will have voted for equality (since we are a minority). Still, a monumental antagonistic reaction could occur, according to Preserve M... against the gay minority, or against enlightened heterosexuals too?

  7. Claude
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Spending, of course, brings the constant issue of donor and amount disclosure. The pro-equality side discloses its donors in accordance with the law. NOM systematically refuses to disclose, despite court orders that have required it, in accordance with various states' laws.

  8. Preserve Marriage
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Claude wrote,
    > Rights and freedoms for LGBTs are not "special rights", but "equal rights".

    Civil unions confer the same rights to pairs of homosexuals that married couples have, yet the pairs of homosexuals aren't married! So they're special rights.

    > Wow! Both Rick and Preserve M. are threatening an anti-gay backlash, if a majority of Washingtonians vote in favor of marriage equality.

    1. I never wrote anything about "Washingtonians".
    2. I'm not "threatening" a backlash. I'm just suggesting there may be one. There was a backlash against no-fault divorce too. There's nothing wrong with that. There was a backlash against tyranny 237 years ago too.

    > Preserve M. talks of money being spent by the pro-equality movement. There is a lot of money also being spent by the anti-equality movement.

    A lot more is being spent by the marriage redefinition movement.

  9. Preserve Marriage
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Claude,

    I looked up "backlash", to avoid repeating the word, and found "an antagonistic reaction."
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/backlash

    Try not to make too much out of it, as much as you might like to.

    I honestly do believe a backlash may very well occur, and it could wipe out many gains made by homosexual special rights lobbyists.

    The Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day demonstration could be seen as a backlash. Defense of marriage amendments are another.

    And it works both ways.

  10. Claude
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    PM: I grant you that your post did not constitute a threat in the same way as Ryan's. However, I cannot understate that raising the flag of a backlash toward us can and will incite others to join Ryan "outside the law", even though that may not indeed be your intention.

  11. Posted August 12, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    You haven't won yet, Claude.

    You therefore have nothing to worry about.

  12. Preserve Marriage
    Posted August 13, 2012 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    Claude,

    I was referring to a political backlash.

    Homosexual special rights lobbyists are kind of like the Terminator. " It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever!"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbZMIP4XUE

    The money keeps flowing so they keep going.

    I'm starting to feel like they know not what they do.

  13. Preserve Marriage
    Posted August 13, 2012 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    Rick,

    They've won a lot, although SSM has lost at the ballot box in 28 out of 28 states.

    In the 70s, people fought over whether people of a particular sexual preference were entitled to any special rights at all, including the right to be included in laws prohibiting discrimination -- since homosexuals were defined by what they *did*, rather than by what they *were*.

    This was before they replaced the expression, "sexual preference," with "sexual orientation."

    Now they've bribed politicians to write "sexual orientation" into scads of laws, ranging from anti-bullying, to hate speech, to indoctrination of schoolchildren -- wherever a list of people with immutable characteristics can be found. SB 48 replaced "ethnicities" with "cultural groups."

    It's all going on while people focus on supporting their families, raising children, etc.

    Politicians will do anything for campaign contributions.

  14. Preserve Marriage
    Posted August 13, 2012 at 2:26 am | Permalink

    Sorry, that was 32 out of 32 states (two-thirds of the country).

  15. Daughter of Eve
    Posted August 13, 2012 at 2:36 am | Permalink

    Will join my prayers w/ my Catholic friends. Marriage = Man + Woman.

  16. Living Straight
    Posted August 13, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Claude you are living a fantasy. Your group is being used to degrade society so that when the Muslims take over sharia law will look reasonable and welcomed. We know how Muslims deal with homosexuals so I weep for you and pray for you when that day happens. The only thing holding back Muslims taking over in this country is the fact that we have always been a Christian nation but as our illustrious president has proclaimed that is no longer the case. I pray he is mistaken you should too. Christians tolerate gays, Muslims do not. this is why you gays can harrass a preist but you will never have the testicular fortitude to harass a Muslim cleric.
    we shall see in about 20 to 30 years how gays fare in this country.