The Human Rights Campaign's new president, Chad Griffin, started [the American Foundation for Equal Rights]. In a statement about today's announcement, he said the appointment sends "a chilling message" to the country.
"Bishop Cordileone has proven himself to be an anti-gay activist who encourages and promotes discrimination against LGBT people," he said.
"Catholic teaching calls on us to love our neighbors and to treat others with the same respect we wish for ourselves. Unfortunately, Bishop Cordileone’s crusade against LGBT people indicates he doesn’t take these particular teachings to heart," Griffin said. "While LGBT Catholics and their allies have worked relentlessly to create welcoming environments, the appointment of Bishop Cordileone sends a chilling message that, in the eyes of the hierarchy, same-sex relationships are not worthy of equal dignity and respect."
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Welcome to the era of the Church Militant... its about time!
"I did not come to bering peace on earth - I came to bring the sword"... Jesus Christ.
Or as Karl Marx said - "Draw the Contrast!"
All avenues of concilation & compromise have been exhausted. Givwen that we were dealing with radicals, all thinking people understood that they were never going to cut a deal to begin with.
However...OUR good faith efforts were needed to prove to ourselves and the world that we could extend the olive branch.
At this point the faithfull witness to marriage will grow our flock and inbolden the faithfull.
The Church thinks in centuries....but it wont take nearly that long for this lot to discredit itself....its already happening.
Hmm, getting ready to crank up the ovens, Fitz?
That “chilling message” warms my heart!
The man-woman union (marriage) has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality. Get over it Chad. And stop trying to change the subject.
“same-sex relationships are not worthy of” using the same word that names the opposite-sex relationship; because it is fundamentally too different from it. Dignity and respect have nothing to do with that fact.
If you're looking for dignity and respect, why don't you start by not attempting to steal away (through vengeful hateful aggression) a word that is held dear by billions of respectable and reasonable people. Stand on your own two feet.
Whether or not you think gay marriage will affect straight marriage, I think we can all agree that Chad Griffin is not trying to "steal away" the word "marriage" from any relationship.
Why would Chad Griffin be moire concerned about who is appointed Archbishop of San Francisco than, say, who is appointed the Grand Mufti of Syria?
Spunky (writes)
"Whether or not you think gay marriage will affect straight marriage, I think we can all agree that Chad Griffin is not trying to "steal away" the word "marriage" from any relationship."
That presisley what he is doing. He is taking a word that means a lifelong commitment between man & woman and changing it meaning, redifining it...to mean the marriage of two people of nany gender.
Just because male/female marriages will still be called marriages dosent mean that what they are under the law is marriage.
People dont want to be Partner A. & Partner B. They want to be Bride & Groom.
Once same-sex marriage is instiutionalized then ALL marriages will be considered genderless constructs.
Advocates for same-sex "marriage" often get caught up on this one undeniable point of fact. They even go as far as to stridently maintain that - "nobody is trying to redifine anything" & the like.
If they were more honest both to themselves and in their arguments they would probably be able to better see the how & why of their oppositions arguments.
"Once same-sex marriage is instiutionalized then ALL marriages will be considered genderless constructs."
The NOM supporters on this site get more tin-foil-hat paranoid by the day. Will the passing of a law by the US government make you start thinking of your spouse as a genderless non-person? No? Then you have nothing to worry about.
A few simple questions:
1. Who defines Catholic teaching, the HRC or the Pope?
2. Who determines who will be an archbishop, the HRC or the Pope?
3. Who is sending a welcoming or chilling message to whom?
@Fitz
My point was that no one is taking away the word "marriage" from anyone. Good News seemed to suggest that Griffin is trying to deny married opposite-sex couples the title "married," and that's just not true. Now, maybe that's not what he meant, but it is the way his argument reads:
(emphasis mine)
I assume that by "billions of reasonable people" he meant straight married couples.
In short, either his writing was bad or his logic was bad. Either way, Good News must write arguments that make sense.
I do not know why it is so hard for people to grasp the truth that Maggie Gallagher has eloquently stated:
"Sexual orientation is almost certainly unchosen, but the decision to incorporate a sexual desire into one’s identity, and then to act on it, is a decision. Maybe most people think it’s the right decision, the healthiest decision, but the point is that it’s a choice, and subject to moral reflection. A sexual desire is not its own justification."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/227583/redefining-religious-liberty/maggie-gallagher
I think the folks at HRC are smart enough to understand what the appointment of His Grace Archbishop Cordileone means.
The giant is waking up.
The Catholic Church does not view the issue of so-called same-sex "marriage" as an anti-homosexual position. Yes, the Church rightly views homosexual acts as disordered, but that is a separate issue from marriage. Marriage is a bout uniting moms and dads with their offspring; that's not anti-homosexual, that's dealing with the fact that man and woman create offspring. It's a FACT that homosexual couples cannot procreate, not bigotry.
Mike
Thank you for linking that article.
Maggie knew where this was heading.
Overcame.
I'm waiting for the day we do not feed into gay politics:
Marriage between one man and one woman is by nature anti-homosexual and must stay that way for a healthy marriage. I know politicians, gay activists, and the mainstream media has labeled the depiction ( anti-gay) a bad word out of consideration for that group, but also to advance their "born that way" argument as well as other manipulative positions on the issue. We must not fall victim to the "gays are victims" propaganda. It's not about hate, we identify heterosexuals by its habitual nature anti-gay; and homosexuals/so-call gay people, because of their habitual sexual traits, are anti- heterosexual in their actions and thinking.
Next we should talk more about the consequences if heterosexuals don't maintain a separate view of life from homosexuality... It is not a coincidence that heterosexalism makes up 100% of the population; there are no homosexual species just a sexual confusion disease gone ramped by less than 3% of the general population for FAR too LONG... WE MUST CONITNUE LOOKING FOR MORE PERMANENT SOLUTIONS TO THIS DISEASE…sooner than later. I'm surpised that an anti-gay pill has not been developed yet. This idea seems more promising than trying to find a cure for AIDS...
@Leo
You mean like this?
Greg (writes)
"Hmm, getting ready to crank up the ovens, Fitz"
That's more than a stretch. Given that this is concerning the Catholic Church; I am apparently on the side that saved hundreds of thousands from "the ovens".
I guess some have difficulty distinguishing zealousness in defense of marriage from genocide.
what kind of mind conflates those two things?
Spunky (writes)
"My point was that no one is taking away the word "marriage" from anyone. Good News seemed to suggest that Griffin is trying to deny married opposite-sex couples the title "married,"
I suppose we could change the definition of "arms" to mean "down pillows" & still maintain that people have the right to keep and bear "arms".
In short, neither GoodNews writing nor his logic was bad. Rather Spunkys spirit of generosity in understanding the depth of this linguistic subterfuge is sorely deficient.
Griffin misrepresented Catholic teaching.
Same sex sexual behavior does not merit the moral equivalence that Griffin promotes. Reason stands against Griffin. So does Catholic teaching.
But Griffin trades on a half-truth.
Respect for human dignity does entail equal treatment. But not arbitrarily treating different things as the same. Equal treatment does NOT command that society arbitrarily treat things the same.
Griffin cannot demand equal treatment based on authentic equality. Instead he attacks Catholic teaching by pretending that he teaches Catholicism to the Pope and Bishop.
Griffin is a bigot and his words illustrate that very well.
I really wish he had something more constructive, more civil and more reasonable to say on this occassion. But Griffin chose his words by expressing his progay bigotry.
Ovens? Greg has reduced himself to Trollish commentary. He could do much better than that.