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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-121697</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elton John feels the prick of his moral conscience and managed only to speak a half-truth rather than face the whole truth.

The child was abandoned by his mother - pre-emptively - and will learn that was willed by himself and his male sexual accomplice. 
There was no child in need whose interest could plausibly be best served by adoption. The child would not have been concieved if noy for the provider of a service,a woman who sold her body as surrogate, a woman who gave up her own child via her giving up her gamtes, and two men who sought to use people in this manner to attain possession of a vulnerable and innocent human being. The transaction was not centered on this particular child but on the means of achieving an immoral end. Ultimately this was about using a child to satisify needy adults all round.

So, yes,it is heartless to knowingly do this to children. This child will have been denied his birthright. It is an example of adults manufacturing a tragedy or misfortune and recognizing that something is amiss ... by anticipating the child&#039;s perspective.

At least Elton John voiced the brokeness if what has been done to this child.

But it is not just a point of empathy. It is a point of procreative justice. So Elton John needed to acknowledge his part in this.

The motherless circumstance will break the child&#039;sheart, he said.

Not quite right. Elton John and his accomplice will break this child&#039;sheart.

And will do it again to another child, anyway.

That willfulness to do a moral wrong is the missing part of Elton John&#039;s admission. This is his half-hearted confession. He&#039;d excuse breaking the hearts of children. Why wish such hardship on children?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elton John feels the prick of his moral conscience and managed only to speak a half-truth rather than face the whole truth.</p>
<p>The child was abandoned by his mother - pre-emptively - and will learn that was willed by himself and his male sexual accomplice.<br />
There was no child in need whose interest could plausibly be best served by adoption. The child would not have been concieved if noy for the provider of a service,a woman who sold her body as surrogate, a woman who gave up her own child via her giving up her gamtes, and two men who sought to use people in this manner to attain possession of a vulnerable and innocent human being. The transaction was not centered on this particular child but on the means of achieving an immoral end. Ultimately this was about using a child to satisify needy adults all round.</p>
<p>So, yes,it is heartless to knowingly do this to children. This child will have been denied his birthright. It is an example of adults manufacturing a tragedy or misfortune and recognizing that something is amiss ... by anticipating the child's perspective.</p>
<p>At least Elton John voiced the brokeness if what has been done to this child.</p>
<p>But it is not just a point of empathy. It is a point of procreative justice. So Elton John needed to acknowledge his part in this.</p>
<p>The motherless circumstance will break the child'sheart, he said.</p>
<p>Not quite right. Elton John and his accomplice will break this child'sheart.</p>
<p>And will do it again to another child, anyway.</p>
<p>That willfulness to do a moral wrong is the missing part of Elton John's admission. This is his half-hearted confession. He'd excuse breaking the hearts of children. Why wish such hardship on children?</p>
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		<title>By: LEO</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-121182</link>
		<dc:creator>LEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C. Jay
Please point in Rgnerus study confirmng that gay parenting is just as good as hetero.

Society has the right to discriminate from what is good and what is bad, period. Marriage and Parenting works well as is and does not need an addition. Individuals can do as they please as long as their behavior does not affect the rest of us who disagrees with their choices in life. And, if laws are needed to make sure this does not happen, so be it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. Jay<br />
Please point in Rgnerus study confirmng that gay parenting is just as good as hetero.</p>
<p>Society has the right to discriminate from what is good and what is bad, period. Marriage and Parenting works well as is and does not need an addition. Individuals can do as they please as long as their behavior does not affect the rest of us who disagrees with their choices in life. And, if laws are needed to make sure this does not happen, so be it!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy E King</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-121167</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy E King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@RC

Of course not; because they have not been around long enough to know the difference. 

My experience with this same subject is that the children brought up in this environment demonstrate extreme gender confusion; while the same-gender sex addicts that raise them diligently work at encouraging these children to pursue the same type of relationship they have. Just watching this anyone can see that these adults are looking for vindication through the children they should be protecting.

It is heartbreaking to see, but the government is on their side - for now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RC</p>
<p>Of course not; because they have not been around long enough to know the difference. </p>
<p>My experience with this same subject is that the children brought up in this environment demonstrate extreme gender confusion; while the same-gender sex addicts that raise them diligently work at encouraging these children to pursue the same type of relationship they have. Just watching this anyone can see that these adults are looking for vindication through the children they should be protecting.</p>
<p>It is heartbreaking to see, but the government is on their side - for now.</p>
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		<title>By: C Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-121141</link>
		<dc:creator>C Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 06:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe try reading his comment in context? As RC said, children DO grow up just as good with committed homosexual parents as heterosexual parents (Regnerus&#039; recent study confirmed this further, even through we already have studies). His son will be fine as long as you people don&#039;t start trying to tell him his parents don&#039;t love him and are selfish. Dear God, you people have kids. How is going through the trouble of having a surrogate, plus raising a crying, non-sleeping child from BIRTH being &#039;selfish&#039;? If you can&#039;t stand to see some immoral sinner be successful and happy, just say it that way. At least be honest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe try reading his comment in context? As RC said, children DO grow up just as good with committed homosexual parents as heterosexual parents (Regnerus' recent study confirmed this further, even through we already have studies). His son will be fine as long as you people don't start trying to tell him his parents don't love him and are selfish. Dear God, you people have kids. How is going through the trouble of having a surrogate, plus raising a crying, non-sleeping child from BIRTH being 'selfish'? If you can't stand to see some immoral sinner be successful and happy, just say it that way. At least be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: LEO</title>
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		<dc:creator>LEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 06:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RC,
 It&#039;s not able experimentation and after the fact. These adults should have enough smarts to know using kids as a form of mental therepy for their abnormal behavior to make them feel better about their life, is a moral crime to children and their God given right to have a mother and father role model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RC,<br />
 It's not able experimentation and after the fact. These adults should have enough smarts to know using kids as a form of mental therepy for their abnormal behavior to make them feel better about their life, is a moral crime to children and their God given right to have a mother and father role model.</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-121125</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While my sample size is tiny and statistically irrelevant, I&#039;ve known three children with same-gender parents, all of which have reached an age of family-awareness and not a single one has been heartbroken over the lack of having a parent that&#039;s the opposite gender of their parents.

That&#039;s nothing more than anecdotal, but it&#039;s worth mentioning.

But here&#039;s the actually relevant comment: The Furnish-John kid is less than two years old; no one can possibly claim to know what is going to break his heart, or not.

Let&#039;s all check in with Zachary in a decade or two and see what&#039;s what.

Elton John is not a mind reader. And neither are you. Any of you.  (Nor I).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my sample size is tiny and statistically irrelevant, I've known three children with same-gender parents, all of which have reached an age of family-awareness and not a single one has been heartbroken over the lack of having a parent that's the opposite gender of their parents.</p>
<p>That's nothing more than anecdotal, but it's worth mentioning.</p>
<p>But here's the actually relevant comment: The Furnish-John kid is less than two years old; no one can possibly claim to know what is going to break his heart, or not.</p>
<p>Let's all check in with Zachary in a decade or two and see what's what.</p>
<p>Elton John is not a mind reader. And neither are you. Any of you.  (Nor I).</p>
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		<title>By: LonesomeRhoades</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-121061</link>
		<dc:creator>LonesomeRhoades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is absolutely unqualified to raise a child. Heck, he is unqualified to be a babysitter too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is absolutely unqualified to raise a child. Heck, he is unqualified to be a babysitter too!</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-121029</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barb, I agree that it&#039;s terrible for Elton to willfully bring another child into that mess. But I guess I’m happy (I don’t know if “happy” is the word for it) that he&#039;s not expecting the child to grieve quietly. 

It must be hard to grow up in that kind of environment and the parents don&#039;t expect you to experience any sort of hurt from being created and raised in that fashion. They don’t expect you to feel that there is something unnatural about your “family.” Any expression of hurt or even bewilderment about your origins is suppressed by a child fearful of their parents, or concerned about their parents&#039; emotional well-being. 

Imagine children who grow up and their parents have no empathy for them, and don&#039;t even try to understand their pain. The children are really supposed to assume that they resulted from two men, and deal with realizing that this isn’t true and the aftermath on their own. In fact, the aftermath is the fault of a homophobic society—not what the parents brought the child into. 

Elton is willing to inflict pain on another child, but at least he acknowledges it. Cold comfort for the child, I’m sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barb, I agree that it's terrible for Elton to willfully bring another child into that mess. But I guess I’m happy (I don’t know if “happy” is the word for it) that he's not expecting the child to grieve quietly. </p>
<p>It must be hard to grow up in that kind of environment and the parents don't expect you to experience any sort of hurt from being created and raised in that fashion. They don’t expect you to feel that there is something unnatural about your “family.” Any expression of hurt or even bewilderment about your origins is suppressed by a child fearful of their parents, or concerned about their parents' emotional well-being. </p>
<p>Imagine children who grow up and their parents have no empathy for them, and don't even try to understand their pain. The children are really supposed to assume that they resulted from two men, and deal with realizing that this isn’t true and the aftermath on their own. In fact, the aftermath is the fault of a homophobic society—not what the parents brought the child into. </p>
<p>Elton is willing to inflict pain on another child, but at least he acknowledges it. Cold comfort for the child, I’m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Good News</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-120993</link>
		<dc:creator>Good News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And after all that, the union of a man and a woman still merits a name.  Marriage.

So that when I tell my child, &quot;I&#039;m looking forward to you being married one day&quot; it will actually mean what I&#039;m looking forward to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And after all that, the union of a man and a woman still merits a name.  Marriage.</p>
<p>So that when I tell my child, "I'm looking forward to you being married one day" it will actually mean what I'm looking forward to.</p>
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		<title>By: Daughter of Eve</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-120989</link>
		<dc:creator>Daughter of Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The child has a mother, who abandoned him as part of a business transaction.  That is morally wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The child has a mother, who abandoned him as part of a business transaction.  That is morally wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb Chamberlan</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-120979</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb Chamberlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, like every child, Zachary *does* have a mother.

Also, I find Elton&#039;s admission meaningless, since he plans to break another child&#039;s heart.

Children are not pets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, like every child, Zachary *does* have a mother.</p>
<p>Also, I find Elton's admission meaningless, since he plans to break another child's heart.</p>
<p>Children are not pets.</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Drudge</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/25548/comment-page-1#comment-120976</link>
		<dc:creator>Fake Drudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually the kid has TWO mothers.  But women being such a pain in the ass he paid them both to go away.  Gee, thanks Dad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the kid has TWO mothers.  But women being such a pain in the ass he paid them both to go away.  Gee, thanks Dad.</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Drudge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fake Drudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually the kid has TWO mothers.  But women being such a pain in the ass he paid them both to go away.  Gee, thanks Dad.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1342346/Elton-Johns-baby-2-mothers-required-produce-heir.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the kid has TWO mothers.  But women being such a pain in the ass he paid them both to go away.  Gee, thanks Dad.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1342346/Elton-Johns-baby-2-mothers-required-produce-heir.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1342346/Elton-Johns-baby-2-mothers-required-produce-heir.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: OvercameSSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>OvercameSSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But that doesn&#039;t matter AM, because the ssmers don&#039;t believe that fathers are important.  

The kid will just get another &quot;parent,&quot; and will, as the homosexualist researchers like to say, &quot;do fine,&quot;  As long as he gets a college education and a good job (or inherits a bunch of cash), he&#039;s &quot;doing fine,&quot; as those seem to be the libs basis on which to determine how good one&#039;s life is.  

All that mom and dad stuff is irrelevant; nothing that 5-days a week of therapy can&#039;t solve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that doesn't matter AM, because the ssmers don't believe that fathers are important.  </p>
<p>The kid will just get another "parent," and will, as the homosexualist researchers like to say, "do fine,"  As long as he gets a college education and a good job (or inherits a bunch of cash), he's "doing fine," as those seem to be the libs basis on which to determine how good one's life is.  </p>
<p>All that mom and dad stuff is irrelevant; nothing that 5-days a week of therapy can't solve.</p>
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		<title>By: AM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zachary is not only motherless. With a father who is 65yrs old, he has a good chance of being fatherless before reaching adulthood as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zachary is not only motherless. With a father who is 65yrs old, he has a good chance of being fatherless before reaching adulthood as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy E King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy E King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But the kid will just have to pull up his big boy diapers and deal with it because Elton John&#039;s sense of happiness is more important to society than the health and well being of proceeding generations.

It is all about you Elton; you go boy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the kid will just have to pull up his big boy diapers and deal with it because Elton John's sense of happiness is more important to society than the health and well being of proceeding generations.</p>
<p>It is all about you Elton; you go boy!</p>
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		<title>By: OvercameSSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>OvercameSSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My thoughts exactly, Ash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts exactly, Ash.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least Elton is honest. 

I guess heartbreak and confusion is the price children have to pay for adult satisfaction.

***And while we&#039;re at it, let&#039;s subject another child to this so that Zachary will have a sibling! They&#039;ll share the same mother (egg donor), but we&#039;ll mix sperm so that they won&#039;t know which one of us is &quot;the&quot; dad, or which child descended from which man.***

The games they play with children&#039;s lives...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Elton is honest. </p>
<p>I guess heartbreak and confusion is the price children have to pay for adult satisfaction.</p>
<p>***And while we're at it, let's subject another child to this so that Zachary will have a sibling! They'll share the same mother (egg donor), but we'll mix sperm so that they won't know which one of us is "the" dad, or which child descended from which man.***</p>
<p>The games they play with children's lives...</p>
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