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Married Olympian Accuses Organizers of Discriminating Against Heterosexual Couples

 

CBS:

An Australian Olympic married couple claims they have been prohibited from sharing a room in the London Olympic Village, even though gay couples are reportedly allowed to do so.

Craig Borrow/Newspix

Olympic shooters Russell and Lauryn Mark toldnews.com.au that they are being discriminated against by officials.

“The stupid part of this, which I have argued to them, is that there are tons of gay couples on the Olympic team who will be rooming together, so we are being discriminated against because we are heterosexual,” Russell Mark told news.com.au.

Lauryn Mark additionally told the website that the Australian Olympic Committee has not helped them with their situation.

“Basically they said if we want to room together we need to check out of the village and go into a hotel at our own expense. It’s not feasible,” she told news.com.au. “I am very frustrated because in sport there are a lot of same-sex couples and it’s OK to be partners with someone of the same sex, but if you are heterosexual you are penalized.”

58 Comments

  1. Barb Chamberlan
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Nick Green, head of mission for the Australian Olympic Committee, "explains" why this married couple isn't allowed to live together:

    “Accommodation and bedding are done in a particular way to ensure all the athletes are accommodated in the village.”

    Huh?

  2. Lefty
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    It's just a few weeks. They'll probably survive it.

  3. OvercameSSA
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    I assume the reason for this is that the accommodations are like a dorm or barracks where bathrooms and bedrooms are shared; so the discrimination is not based on the fact that she's married, but because having a guy in the girl's dorm is not a good idea.

    Separating the guys from the gals in such circumstances is a means for protecting women from leering, horny guys. Gay guys don't need that protection: they like to be leered at and propositioned in the bathroom.

  4. OvercameSSA
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Sometimes, it's a good thing to keep the boys separated from the girls: Boy Scouts just reaffirmed their policy of no homosexual scouts or leaders:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/boy-scouts-gay-ban_n_1679854.html

    Perhaps the Olympic Committee could establish a similar policy.

  5. John Noe
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Overcome: I just read the article as I am a former Boy Scout. I am happy for this policy. The Boy Scouts involves teenage boys coming together in meetings and at camp. We knew better than to allow sexual predators into our group.
    No parent who wants the best for their sons would want a homosexual to be anywhere near the boys. This is sexual abuse just waiting to happen. Keeping these homosexual pedophiles away from us shows the Scouts leadership is aware of our safety.
    Near where I live the Scouts actually owned their own campground and reservation. Just imagine if they allowed homosexual leaders and one of them was involved in hanky panky with one of the boys. The Scouts would lose their campground as it would have to be sold to pay for the lawsuit they would lose. I am sure the Scouts would lose members.
    What is never mentioned of course is the fact, the homosexuals could create their own organization. But as usual rather than accept that responsibility they would rather and try and infiltrate a straight organization.

  6. leo
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    From the Hoffingppost:

    NEW YORK -- After a confidential two-year review, the Boy Scouts of America on Tuesday emphatically reaffirmed its policy of excluding gays, ruling out any changes despite relentless protest campaigns by some critics.

    Great News ! So, there are still good organizations out there that has not consumed the LGBT's Coolade.

  7. leo
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Great post JN, I am also a former Boy Scout, the organization made the right decision period.

  8. TC Matthews
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    My sons have all been through boy scouts. You just can't take a risk like that. I agree they made the right decision.

  9. Jon
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    @TC Matthews
    Thank God your children were kept safe from meeting homosexual children and learning to accept them (or even become friends with them, that would be disgusting). It is truly horrific when children are exposed to homosexual peers and inevitably come to accept their peers as friends rather than bullying them and denigrating them. Thank the lord they are taught to discriminate against the disgusting homosexuals from a young age.

  10. David Argue
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Gee, I hope the Austrailian Olympic Committee isn't acutally admitting that there are differences between traditional marriage and SSM. ;-) I'm sure there have been married olympic couples before. How was it handled then?

  11. Posted July 17, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    I support the Boy Scout's decision. All children (including those who may experience a same-sex attraction) should be taught that the only responsible sexual behavior takes place between a married man and woman; any other adult endorsing a sexual relationship outside of marriage between a man and a woman is not a leader we want for our kids. And the Olympic Committee should discourage sexual behavior between athletes who are not husband and wife.

  12. leo
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    OK NOM should legitimately frame the BS's decision into a seperate article for more discussion on the matter. I think that would be a great idea... I think the subject is relevant to gay activities ( pseudo marriage, gay parenting, ss child molestation and pedophilia, gay politics, etc. Also, parents choice and consent issues that played a key part of the BS ruling, I believe it falls under the marriage debate. I hope the BS' becomes a leader for other organizations and those organizations, including businesses, who are confused or wrong on the sudject .

    Now back to NOM's article blog....

  13. Good News
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the good news Overcame.

    THANK YOU! THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA! For teaching our entire nation, a lesson in dignity, courage and character! But before all else, for teaching our boys - our future men!

    YOU MIGHT BE ONE OF THE FEW LIGHTS IN AMERICA TODAY. In any event... I see your light. And I am inspired!

  14. Posted July 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    @Jon, if you knew anything about the Boy Scouts, you would know that it’s a Christian organization. As such, it very specifically teaches its members to “accept their peers as friends rather than bullying them and denigrating them.” On the other hand, like any organization, it refuses to accept as members those who refuse to abide by its bylaws. It wouldn’t accept unrepentant rapists, murderers, kleptomaniacs, or pedophiles, either.

    Boy Scout leaders are supposed to be role models. If a person isn’t willing to live up to that standard (or at the very least, sincerely attempt to), the organization isn’t going to let him continue in that position.

  15. Karen
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Funny how the Catholic church was pressured to let men with SSA become priests...and is now criticized because those men with SSA acted on it. (Keep in mind virtually all of the acts of these priests was with *older* boys...and with *boys,* almost never with girls. But we're not supposed to think that has anything to do with men with SSA who were allowed around children in the first place. Because it would be 'discrimination' to prevent it? Wake up, liberals! Now you want men with SSA in charge of a bunch of boys?

  16. Nahum Fiji
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    I think this has to do with the host because this country is very liberal. Most of them do not believe in moral values. And their morality is going to the dogs.

  17. David Shelton
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Awwwww, poor heterosexuals being discriminated against! Now I guess they know how we homosexuals feel. After years of being discriminated against, I can't really say i feel sorry for them!

  18. leo
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    When we as society start to value homosexuality as a right, I thinks this is time to outlaw the sexual act and those engaged in to suffer punishment.

  19. Mark
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    @Jon: Have you actually read the BSA's policy on homosexuality? Somehow, I rather doubt it.

    @David Shelton: So you're in favor of discrimination. It's nice to know that you don't object to it in principle, but only when it's your own ox being gored. Perhaps you will understand that others might feel the same way.

  20. leo
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    David Shelton said:
    wwwww, poor heterosexuals being discriminated against! Now I guess they know how we homosexuals feel. After years of being discriminated against, I can't really say i feel sorry for them!

    David the key difference of homo to hetero:

    Homo participation has no relevancy to society at large, but a health hazard contributer. In contrast, society NEEDs heterosexual participation and to discriminate against it WILL have a disastrous result.

  21. Little Man
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    There's no heterosexuals not homosexuals, scientifically speaking not possible to verify it - it is based on a revealed persuasion. Not only that, but then there's also the bi-sexual category, much advertised. These categories are constructed by observation or claim to particular behaviors, often not even having to do with the sexual primary organ stimulation. Since the categories are on the basis of persuasion regarding behavior, it is identical to categorization on the basis of religion. Once people get sucked into the homosexual vs. heterosexual categorization construct, there will be no possible 'equitable' way of making rules based on primary sexual organs (which can be verified, as a doctors often verify in passing per diagnostic services). If homosexuals and heterosexuals are defined as if they were different species of Homos, then the analogy with race applies. Even race is mostly mixed. Still, homosexuals believe they remain analogous to race, which is a genetic pool type of consideration.

    In the olympian context, it could be the olympics authorities are concerned about rape in the so-called heterosexual category, but are not worried with respect to the so-called homosexual category, because rape cannot lead to pregnancy.

    There's always something wrong going on at each Olympics. Each event is an Olympic. The series of events is called Olympics. It is not an Olympic for every sport competition. Get real.

  22. Little Man
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    David Shelton: there you go, proving there's reverse discrimination coming from so-called homosexuals : 'After years of being discriminated against, I can't really say i feel sorry for them!'

    So, we don't feel sorry for your sorry existence.

  23. David Shelton
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    leo, the key difference is human to human. HUMAN participation has ALL relevancy to society. Actors, politicians, inventors, authors, etc.. Point is that no one should be discriminated against because of who they love! In contrast, leo, society NEEDs human participation and to discriminate against it WILL have disastrous results! And by the way, my comment was as sarcastic as gaycists are stupid! VERY!!!!

  24. David Shelton
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Little Man, and your name is PERFECT, as you'll notice what I said to leo, my comment was sarcastic. I'm NOT for discrimination against ANYONE! However, it does go to show how we feel on a daily basis!

    Steve, you said, "Its to late they are already infiltrated now to lynch them when found,,,how many more will be abused if they are allowed in any child activities" FIRST you want to lynch us, right? WOW and I thought this was 2012, NOT 1920! And do you honestly think that all homosexuals are going to harm children? How absolutely stupid are you really! NO DON'T answer! That was a rhetorical question, not a challenge!

  25. Little Man
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Well, it is the people of homosexual persuasion who want to integrate into the non-homosexual communities. That's what's driving all the politics about gender nowadays. They will take a so-called heterosexual community and call out 'unfairness' because, they, as self attributed 'homosexuals' are not included as such. But that goes against the initial self-categorization of themselves as 'homosexual'. Certainly, they don't think of themselves as a majority, anywhere. So, it is self-contradicting in two ways: a) they are a minority requiring majority vote, and b) They themselves created the different category of 'homosexual' and then wonder how come they are excluded.

    What a pain. But they are gradually being found out for what they are - a walking contradiction.

  26. Little Man
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    Sheldon: So, i can be sarcastic too. oh, you poor 'homosexual', how you suffer :( , we should all hug you and pat you on the back. You are the center of the Universe, and see how lowly you are treated. It is so un-Christian, so inhumane, oh, how you must suffer :(

  27. David Shelton
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Lil Man. Excellent job of sarcasm! Congratulations! You've just shown how utterly stupid bigots are!

  28. David Shelton
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    I've always said that heterosexuals would whine and moan a groan and call foul if they were ever discriminated against! I was RIGHT!

  29. Mike
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    The Olympic games favor same-sex couples because they don't ever have surprise babies that may impede their sporting vocation.

    Unlimited sex without procreating is within the Olympic housing rules. Gay marriage rights activists don't feel you are being discriminated against because procreation and sex are two different things to them, which is why they won't stand up for your right to procreate. To them and the Olympic officials, hetero marrieds are "breeders" that have no place in the Olympic Village.

  30. John Colgan
    Posted July 17, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    I for one would like to know about the alleged "a lot" of homosexual couples on the Australian Olympic team. Long story short, I find the Marks' claims to be far from credible.

    Since, 3 seems like the bare minimum to qualify as "a lot" ,I challenge them to identify by name at least 3 same-sex couples on the Australian Olympic team, who will be rooming together in London.

  31. Scott Wooledge
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    "even though gay couples are reportedly allowed to do so."

    This is a dubious claim. I don't suppose anyone researched if it's actually the case?

    Of course, if the gay people were asked to bunk with straight people that would be an outrage as well.

    Clearly the only solution to that is to bar gay people from competing in the Olympics. Nothing discriminatory about that!

  32. leo
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    SW, great idea!

  33. David Shelton
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    How can you say that barring gay people from the Olympics is not discrimination? Have you lost y our mind? Barring ANY group from participating in ANY function is discrimination. That comment ranks with the stupidity of me saying, "Clearly the only solution to that is to bar people named Scott from competing in the Olympics. Nothing discriminatory about that!"

  34. OvercameSSA
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    David -

    There's good discrimination and bad discrimination. Keeping pedophiles out of schools, e.g., is good discrimination.

    The Civil Rights movement has led many in our society to believe that all discrimination is bad; whereas, discrimination is the basis of most of our laws. That is, we prohibit certain behaviors because they are not valuable or damaging to society.

    So, keeping gays out of the Olympics is certainly discriminatory, but not necessarily a bad form of discrimination if there is a good reason for doing so (but I'm pretty sure Scott was being facetious)

  35. leo
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Overcame you are right about Scott, but I was being died serious... America is culturally moving in the wrong direction with the promotion of gay identity and homosexuality. To stop the unhealthy and dangerous takeover of this way of thinking in its tracks, it may come down to the only solution is for legislation to outlaw public promotion of SS relationships, a State and Federal version on DADT.
    If we start promoting the new law now maybe the push for immorality by the moral curruption crowd,will descend, just sayin...? And if not, America will finally be moving in the right direction once again...

  36. OvercameSSA
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    I agree with you leo. I always mention overturning Lawrence v. Texas, the SCOTUS decision that was intended to merely protect the right of people to do what they want to do in private but had the greater effect of allowing homosexuals to talk about their sordid acts in public. If the Court overturns that law, homosexuals will still be committing their sordid acts as they had before the case was decided, and the public could be spared hearing about how great it is to be a homosexual.

  37. Chairm
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    I'd expect that if same-sex sexualized twosomes were prevented from rooming together, then, the gay activists would have protested and forced someone, somewhere, to resign. It is reflexive of them.

  38. Jane J.
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    The gays couldn't care less about this. Their mentality is "Me, Me, Me!"

  39. leo
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Dvid @ 23:
    leo, the key difference is human to human. HUMAN participation has ALL relevancy to society. Actors, politicians, inventors, authors, etc.. Point is that no one should be discriminated against because of who they love! In contrast, leo, society NEEDs human participation and to discriminate against it WILL have disastrous results! And by the way, my comment was as sarcastic as gaycists are stupid!
    VERY!!!
    I'm not letting you off the hook, your rebuttal does not answer why homo or so-call gay behavior should not be discriminated by society, in contrast to heterosexulity. And, how the lifestyle benefit society. In otherwords, those "humans" who engage in abnormal behavior should not be discriminated because their practice provides what to society( besides HIV/AIDS and other serious STDs, shorter life spend, high rate of pedehpilia, pretenders of healthy family structures )...? What?

  40. David Shelton
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    leo, the reason that "homo" behavior should not be discriminated against is this. It's NOT harmful to society! I have never knows a monogamous, caring, loving, gay couple to ever have hurt society! Once again, some nitwit has brought pedophilia into the debate. Yes, SOME homosexuals are also pedophiles, the same as some HETEROs are pedophiles! Remember, leo, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You notice that no "homo" ever brings up pedophilia, but all you bigots do? Well, shows what on your filthy minds! Let me ask you, what's your reason for your homo-intolerant behavior! Were you born that way. Was it environment or taught to you? P.S. the majority of HIV patients are HETERO INTRAVENOUS DRUG USERS!!!!! OH, and leo #35, I'm a bit too young to remember, but my older sister has read your comment and she said that comment, with a bit of tweaking, sound a lot like what she heard back when segregation was still rampant!

  41. David Shelton
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    P.S. again, leo, Canada has had legal marriages of same sex couples for seven years now. Their society is going strong!

  42. Daughter of Eve
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Canada has no freedom of speech or freedom of religion. Their population is aging, their entitlement programs are unsustainable, and their birth replacement rate is too low. Not many tears before they face the same crisis as Europe. If they adopt conservative values, they may yet salvage the slowly sinking vessel, as must the USA....

  43. David Shelton
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Daughter of Eve;

    Freedom of Religion in Canada - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Canada

    Population demographic of age and increase - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada

    I was unable to find any information about Canada's entitlement programs being unsustainable, maybe you can provide proof of that for me!

  44. Daughter of Eve
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    David, you mistake freedom of religion with freedom of worship. The Catholic Church certainly enjoys no freedom of religion in Canada. No socialist government is sustainable indefinitely. Something about running out of other people's $....

  45. Daughter of Eve
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    As per your link, David, fertility rate is 1.67/woman, as of 2009. A country needs a rate of 2+. Population growth via immigration is not considered enough to head off a demographic winter.

  46. David Shelton
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Just checked, and I'll do some more research when I have the time (spending time with my nephew today) but I honestly wish we had a decline in population! So many people having so many kids! Overpopulated schools, more people in my little town than there are job, overpopulation is what will eventually kill this country! Anyway, when I have the time, I'll do more research!

    By the way, did you find a source to Canada's Entitlement problem? Also where is your source to "A country needs a rate of 2+..."

  47. Daughter of Eve
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    If you please, look up info. on fertility replacement rates, as well as Demographic Winter, to better understand the actual threats from overall population decline.

  48. leo
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    David said:

    leo, the reason that "homo" behavior should not be discriminated against is this. It's NOT harmful to society! I have never knows a monogamous, caring, loving, gay couple to ever have hurt society! Once again, some nitwit has brought pedophilia into the debate. Yes, SOME homosexuals are also pedophiles, the same as some HETEROs are pedophiles! Remember, leo, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You notice that no "homo" ever brings up pedophilia, but all you bigots do? Well, shows what on your filthy minds! Let me ask you, what's your reason for your homo-intolerant behavior! Were you born that way. Was it environment or taught to you?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You still failed to answer my question as to why should society embrace homosexuality an not discriminate those who practices the behavior. And, by the way, as for your comment about Canada going strong with SSM, that would depend on the public interpretation, and coming from you, you won't prove that by me. Since SSM was implemented there, the Country has becoming a communist, socialist, secularist, bullylarist, one religion type of society, and people's freedoms have suffered as the result. The freedom to agree and disagree, to discriminate from what is good and bad, is a true free society. Canada will not survive if they continue on the path they are on, it may take awhile, but I will happen.
    David said:
    P.S. the majority of HIV patients are HETERO INTRAVENOUS DRUG USERS!!!!! OH, and leo #35, I'm a bit too young to remember, but my older sister has read your comment and she said that comment, with a bit of tweaking, sound a lot like what she heard back when segregation was still rampant!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Please, enlighten me as you tried with DOE on other issues, with your facts on this subject, insinuating that HIV/AID is not a gay issue. Also, please tell us NOMers where do you think AIDS originated from, and then back it up with some hard, unbiased but credible evidence to support your belief.

  49. leo
    Posted July 19, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    furthermore:

    you said: "Yes, SOME homosexuals are also pedophiles"

    Some? It is safe to say most pedephile cases are of a homo/gay nature, period.

    You said: " P.S. the majority of HIV patients are HETERO INTRAVENOUS DRUG USERS!!!!! "

    I guess I hit a nerve with you on this one!?! When you statistically and medically speak, you must provide us wirth the source of the information unless you are the author or lead researcher, which I highly doubt.

  50. David Shelton
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    leo-- My grandfather had a massive stroke yesterday and is in a coma, so I'm really not up for playing games right now. I don't have steady access to internet at the hospital, so I just have a few to say this. I DID answer your question as to why should society embrace homosexuality an not discriminate those who practices the behavior. Actually I don't care if you EMBRACE it, but don't discriminate against it! Homosexuality by itself is NOT harmful to society. It's the ones that do bad things that make the rest of us the target of bigotry and discrimination. You don't try to ban ALL alcoholic drinks just because some people drink too much and drive causing accidents, so why ban ALL homosexuality (especially our right to marry) because some gays commit pedophilia acts? It would be like me trying to ban ALL of Christianity because one group in Alabama tried to "beat the homo" out of me causing 35 stitches, concussion, put me in a coma for 4 days, hospitalized for 3 weeks and caused a bruise that clotted and caused me to have a slight stroke myself!

  51. Posted July 20, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    I would first like to point out that all your emotional outbursts may be a bit premature. Considering Nom has falsely reported stories before (and even refused to remove the offending story) this may just be a whole lot of hot air. In addition to this, and as pointed out before, are the living arrangements set up as dorms? If so then their would be on for guys and one for the women.

    I would also point out than until you are dragged into the street, beaten, (or beaten to death) or shot at simple because you where born different... you wouldn't really know what discrimination is.

    Jane J.
    Posted July 18, 2012 at 7:32 pm
    "The gays couldn't care less about this. Their mentality is "Me, Me, Me!"

    You mean like many of the attitudes on this site? "Believe in Jesus follow only parts of the bible we agree with or be labeled evil?" Or how about force feeding faith on others? If your going to complain about others being "me me me" be sure your not one yourself.

  52. Ash
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    @Hank,

    "I would also point out than until you are dragged into the street, beaten, (or beaten to death) or shot at simple because you where born different... you wouldn't really know what discrimination is."

    Are you talking about Black people?

  53. leo
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Hank!
    Not to demonizig Chirstianity, are you saying there isn't argment against sexual deviants without referring to the bible?

    You said:
    "Or how about force feeding faith?"

    How does one force feed faith or religion?

  54. leo
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    David said:
    I DID answer your question as to why should society embrace homosexuality an not discriminate those who practices the behavior. Actually I don't care if you EMBRACE it, but don't discriminate against it! Homosexuality by itself is NOT harmful to society. It's the ones that do bad things that make the rest of us the target of bigotry and discrimination. You don't try to ban ALL alcoholic drinks just because some people drink too much and drive causing accidents, so why ban ALL homosexuality (especially our right to marry) because some gays commit pedophilia acts?

  55. leo
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    David said:
    I DID answer your question as to why should society embrace homosexuality an not discriminate those who practices the behavior. Actually I don't care if you EMBRACE it, but don't discriminate against it! Homosexuality by itself is NOT harmful to society. It's the ones that do bad things that make the rest of us the target of bigotry and discrimination. You don't try to ban ALL alcoholic drinks just because some people drink too much and drive causing accidents, so why ban ALL homosexuality (especially our right to marry) because some gays commit pedophilia acts?

    Again you are medically and statistically speaking minus factual information,and you can't rely on self observation obviously.... Also your apples to oranges comparison won't work either; the danger with homo activity, to consuming alcohol are equal or simuliar. Equally important, there are people out there like myself who think you lifestyle is just plan sick, that is just one of the reason I oppose it.

  56. leo
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    ..are not equal...

  57. bman
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    David Shelton->.....Point is that no one should be discriminated against because of who they love!

    No one is denied marriage because of "who they love." That is a propaganda fallacy used by the gay community.

    Its an obvious fallacy, too, since love cannot be objectively measured by law before one is allowed to marry.

    The real issue, then, is not "love" but its the maladaptive and perverse form of sexual relationship gays want society to sanction at law.

    Same sex couples are denied marriage because the public purpose of marriage is to legally standardize a structured sexual relationship that cohesively integrates human reproductive nature with the moral principles of the community.

    By definition, a same sex sexual relationship is the antithesis, the very opposite, of that.

    It actually "dis" integrates the human reproductive relationship in form and function, and would legally standardize open defiance to the moral authority of the community at law.

    Gays are not discriminated against because of who they "love" but because same sex sexual relationships are disordered and immoral.

    No one should be fooled by the propaganda.

  58. LEO
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Bman, great post!