Gay marriage opponents predict President Barack Obama's public endorsement of same-sex marriage will hurt his re-election chances and pledge to push the issue in key swing states. Officials at the National Organization for Marriage, a political group that helps fund state-based campaigns against gay marriage, had already denounced the president's position and said Tuesday they are confident their efforts will help ensure a victory for Republican nominee Mitt Romney.
"I believe that this will lead to President Obama being a one-term president," said NOM president Brian Brown, during a call with reporters. "If you look at key swing states—Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Iowa—those are all states where you had overwhelming majorities vote to protect marriage, and I think that we are going to focus on making very clear that this is a key distinction obviously."
Ohio, Florida and most recently, North Carolina have all passed constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. While it's legal in Iowa via a court ruling, NOM counts votes to recall justices who supported its legalization as a sign from voters that they oppose it.
Brown pushed back against recent polling that shows Americans' views shifting rapidly in favor of same-sex marriage, claiming they often used 'biased' polling questions. He also pointed to the fact that despite any polling, each of the states that have had popular votes on same-sex marriage have seen voters come out against it. Gay marriage is legal in six states, either through court rulings or by legislation.
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Spot on, Brian.
Pseudo-marriage is a bridge too far for the American people, and this issue can swing the election just exactly as you indicate.
Here's hoping Mitt get it.
Because it's the "Christian" thing, to want to return to where insurance companies can dump policy holders who get sick. And also, the "Christian" thing, to be more motivated to beat down on homosexuals than to provide health care to the poor.
No, it won't be. Marriage equality ranks dead last on the list of major issues influencing voter's choice for President. And we all know that the people who are so anti- gay that they won't vote for someone who supports equality weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. Another failed attempt by NOM to seem relevant and create the fiction that the majority of Americans share their "values".
"Marriage equality ranks dead last on the list of major issues influencing voter's choice for President."
(Sigh) Another poll conclusion. Dontcha get it yet? People don't answer ss"m" polls honestly.
btw, I voted for Obama the first go-round. Really.
Well, 14th, if you are convinced it's not a winning issue, you ought to be delighted that we are going to push it.
And believe me, we will
See you in WA....MN.....MD......and also WI.....NC....FL...MI......the list of states in play just keeps getting longer!
Once again. Thank you for your work Brian and NOM !
I wrote this in a previous post but:
There is a great documentary that everyone here should watch(if you haven't already). It's called Baseball Dennis and the French.
It's about a hardcore athiest liberal who became a christian conservative thanks to Dennis Prager. And throughout the documentary, Dennis is being interviewed.
Saw it, loved it, and it motivated me.
@14th Amend
That's why Obama's decision is causing such a great rift within the Democratic Party. Whatever was left of the Blue Dogs have finally joined the GOP ranks or left the DNC all together but keep thinking that Obama will come out unscathed. I mean liberals are really trying to will away reality.
Obama...the greatest thing to have ever happened to the GOP since Woodrow Wilson and FDR. He's helping the Conservatives more than Romney ever could.
Do I suspect another 1980?
Carter wins in 1976. By the end of four years the public was fed up with him as an incompetent President. Despite the media being against him Ronald Reagon won by a landslide.
Next year the one who promised hope and change but brought us misery can join his buddy Jimmy boy as one term Presidents. As one pundit put it "Jimmy Carter is no longer America's worst President.
@John
The only difference between now and then, is that Romney will have a conservative congress to contend with. Reagan had Democrats, Romney will have Republicans.
This is hilarious. Really, you think marriage is the make or break issue? With the US placing 37th in the works for math and science, you can see NOM as living proof of our failed school system.
@Pete
Ha ha ha. Trying to change the subject? And then you go on the personal attacks. What's wrong? Nothing left in your arsenal?
I am filled with new confidence in our nominee.
Romney 2012
Bravo
Pete, not that you'll see it, but here;s the play.
The election will come down to the swing states (a list which has lengthened considerably since Obama concluded his Fan Dance on pseudo-marriage).
Marriage will not be the only issue.
It will not be the biggest issue.
It will, however, be the *winning* issue, precisely in those states like NC and WI, FL and CO, which have already expressed their will on this question.
Voters deeply resent the cynical disdain with which social engineering elites have taken it upon themselves to define marriage out of existence, and replace it with a radical, Brave New Concept (never mind what it *is*, exactly- the SS"M"era are more than a bit vague on that point).
Voters in key swing states have directly rejected the imposition of pseudo-marriage, and, come November, they get a chance to vote concerning the policies and agendas of those, like Obama, who have dissed them.
Be patient, Pete.
All will be very clear after the election.
but boy howdy will you be surprised at what the schools will be shoveling into the children's minds, at taxpayer expense and at the implicit point of a gun, via compulsory education laws).
Pete, not that you'll see it, but here's the play.
The election will come down to the swing states (a list which has lengthened considerably since Obama concluded his Fan Dance on pseudo-marriage).
Marriage will not be the only issue.
It will not be the biggest issue.
It will, however, be the *winning* issue, precisely in those states like NC and WI, FL and CO, which have already expressed their will on this question.
Voters deeply resent the cynical disdain with which social engineering elites have taken it upon themselves to define marriage out of existence, and replace it with a radical, Brave New Concept (never mind what it *is*, exactly- the SS"M"era are more than a bit vague on that point).
Swing state voters will have a chance to....express their feelings......concerning the appalling disregard of their expressed will on marriage.
Be patient, Pété.
You will understand with perfect clarity on Election Night.
@ Overcame #4: Yes, I have polls - lots of them. What do you have to substantiate your claims?
14th:
Thirty three straight electoral victories.
@Rick
Zing!
Try to stay on topic Ricky. We're discussing the extent to which a candidate's position on marriage equality influences voter selection, not the success of anti-gay campaigns a decade ago in red states. You know you're not obligated to comment in every single entry (that is unless someone is paying you to). So if you can't offer anything relevant to the discussion, maybe you could just sit one out for a change. Just a suggestion.
"precisely in those states like NC and WI, FL and CO, which have already expressed their will on this question."
That was a Republican primary in which Democrats were drastically underrepresented. Republicans expressed their will... and they were already voting for Romney.
I really appreciate all your suggestions, 14th. Of course, you are here to shill for pseudo-marriage, not exactly an easy assignment in the first place, but one made considerably more difficult by the manifest disconnect between reality and your arguments.
"...the success of anti-gay campaigns a decade ago in red states...."
?
Umm, how about the last four years in California and Maine?
Never mind.
Facts are obstacles for SS"M".
Well, since the topic was brought up, please see this short, informative video from Dick Morris on how Walker's win in the Wisconsin recall has broken the back of teachers' unions and will thus help to improve America's education system!
http://www.dickmorris.com/walkers-win-and-its-huge-impact-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/
He also says, "there are polls, and then there are election results."
14th says: Yes, I have polls - lots of them. What do you have to substantiate your claims?
32 states' votes on marriage and a bunch of polls, including exit polls, preceding the Walker recall election.
Keep changing the topic...
I guess "change the topic" must be Alinsky-speak for "stop refuting my points".
Rick, Please refer to #17 and #18. Thanks.
Happy to do so, 14th, although NOM's ineffable Memoryhole has seen fit to swallow my responses on those direct points, and that repeatedly.
As to your first point, California and Maine were neither ten years ago nor are the red states.
As to your second point, I am reminded of the old story where General Giap met at the Paris Peace Talks with an American commander, who informed him that US forces had never lost a battle to the North Vietnamese Army.
General Giap is supposed to have responded:
"That is very true. It is also irrelevant".