20 Comments

1. Rick DeLano
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

   Tolerance in action, folks......

2. Dan
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

   If you don't like the fundamental freedoms America was founded upon - free speech, the Democratic process, religious liberties - then America is not the place for you. Feel free to relocate to a country where these freedoms are not granted to the people.

3. Jim
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

   Dan, what about equal treatment under the law? No one's free speech is being infringed, the Democratic process does not include voting on the legal rights of a minority, and there is no religious basis for denying legal rights to a minority. Nowhere in the Bible, for example, does it authorize or encourage Christians to deny legal rights to minorities, liked or disliked.

4. B73
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

   Because using guns to destroy signs is so much more civilized.

5. Barb Chamberlan
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

   Aren't we the little rebel without a clue.

6. Skooter McGoo
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

   Woman charged with removing Vote NO on Amendment 1 signs. Hypocrisy is your base. http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/05/04/Mom-charged-for-telling-girl-to-take-signs/UPI-19021336110552/

7. B73
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

   Skooter, Don't you know that when a person on the anti-gay side is uncivilized or breaks the law, it's an isolated incident and when an equality supporter does it, he represents each and every one of the several hundred million gay and lesbian people on the planet?

8. Louis E.
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

   Jim,
   shared desire to engage in a particular form of wrongdoing doesn't enroll you in a "minority" entitled to demand "equal treatment" of that wrongdoing with proper behavior.

9. Byrd
   Posted May 8, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

   Typical of the mob mentality of the ssm crowd. Usually the ones screaming the loudest for tolerance are the most intolerant group in the bunch.

10. John
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Very mature.

11. Jim
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    "shared desire to engage in a particular form of wrongdoing doesn't enroll you in a "minority" entitled to demand "equal treatment" of that wrongdoing with proper behavior."

    The nation's highest court and its reputable medical organizations have all found homosexuality to be perfectly normal. The burden is on you to explain why you disagree.

12. Bruce
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    As Skooter McGoo has pointed out, you don't have to look far to find despicable behavior on the part of the anti-gay crowd. Can we all just grow up a little and stipulate that both sides have some jerks? Or we can just keep demonizing each other based on the bad behavior of a few.

13. Rick DeLano
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Bruce:

    In the spirit of moving this thing forward- NC is a game changer, and the issue is very soon going to come down to making the peace- may I say:

    YES

    I agree with you.

    There are jerks on both sides.

    Let's try and find ways to satisfy the legitimate concerns of people with SSA.....the very minute they acknowledge that their neighbors simply will not- ever!- surrender marriage.

14. Skooter McGoo
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    North Carolina, where it is legal to marry your 1st cousin if they are opposite sex but two committed same sex people can not. How sad that the state that gave man his first flight into a new era now solidifies discrimination into it's Constitution. I'm waiting to see what economic effects this will have as people begin to boycott the state because of the decision today. NOM's all about boycotts, now the folks of NC will find out what that is like as well.

15. Rick DeLano
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Skooter:

    Still winning friends and influencing people, I see

16. AM
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Skooter McGoo
    1st cousin marriage is legal in NY as well. Stop with the ignorance.
    Good luck with a boycott.
    NC has some of the most beautiful and popular beaches in the US.
    What are you going to do about the Democrat convention in Charlotte?

17. Donna
    Posted May 8, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Here come the threats from those who lost. Oh yes there will be backlash and you will see what the SSMers are really about just like in CA. Congratulations NC for standing up for marriage. You have the majority of the USA standing with you.

18. dn
    Posted May 9, 2012 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Yea, Donna, because straight californians were systematically discriminated against after prop 8. Spare me.

19. Sean
    Posted May 9, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Good for him

20. Chairm
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    "The nation's highest court and its reputable medical organizations have all found homosexuality to be perfectly normal"

    The US Supreme Court is neither equipped nor qualified to make such a finding. And it did not.

    The court does not have medical organizations, reputable or otherwise. Perhaps you misspoke.

    As for medicine, well, you are overstating things by a very large margin. Homosexually active men are disproportionately prone to physical maladies -- some virtually unique to certain male-only sexual practices.

    Homosexually active women are disproportionately prone to psycho-social maladies -- some almost unique to certain female-only practices. This is normal: the proclivities of men and women are different on average and so exclusion of one or the other sex merely serves as a platform to exagerate certain tendencies towards physical and psycho-social maladies.

    This is not to say that in each and every instance the homosexually active person suffers these maladies. But the degree of disproportion is significant. It is normal in that sense but not in the sense of the nature of human sexuality and human community.

    That said, it is not the basis for objections to the pro-SSM rhetoric and argumentation. It is not the basis for the defense, and the promotion, of the marriage idea -- even in light of the attack by SSMers whose SSM idea is a pale imitation. It is not the basis for the assessment that same-sex sexual behavior, as a type of sexual behavior, is immoral, always. (And that, in turn, is not to say that the homosexually-active person is immoral in his or her entirety -- in all that he or she is and does).

    You need to sort out the gay identity politics from the facts and then proceed under the influence of reason rather than the hyper-personalization that fuels the SSM campaign's overall political strategy.