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New Civitas Poll: NC Marriage Amendment Ahead by 16 Points!

 

Most notably, the poll shows the Marriage Protection Amendment winning among Democrats as well:

Marriage Amendment proponents appear to be ahead in North Carolina, according to polling done by the Civitas Institute on April 30 to May 2.

Support for the proposed amendment to the state constitution that would give the current definition of marriage additional legal protection remains strong as One-Stop Absentee Voting enters its final days. Applying survey results to current voter turnout trends and anticipated election day voting would project the amendment winning by no less than a 16 percentage-point margin.

A survey of partisan primary voters shows the amendment winning among Democrats by a slim 48-to-44 percent margin and among Republicans by a 78-to-15 percent margin. The largest supporters of the amendment among Democratic voters are black voters (38 percent of the sample), who support the amendment by a 2-to-1 margin -- 63 to 30 percent. Self-identified conservative Democrats (23 percent of the sample) support the amendment by an 82-to-13 percent margin. -- ABC WWAY 3

16 Comments

  1. Posted May 4, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    16 in a pre-election poll?????

    Goodness, this is turning into an absolute blowout.

    We could win this by 23!!!!

  2. Robert
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    "While some black clergy have been pulled into this debate, our black churches are smarter than that," said Lettman-Hicks, executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC). "They won't simply be used as pawns to push NOM's hate."

    Ouch! Maybe NOM's declaring victory in North Carolina is a bit premature!

  3. Pete
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Robert.

    This will all go away, there's no constutional reason to deny the rights of marriage to same-sex couples.

  4. bman
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Pete->...there's no constutional reason to deny the rights of marriage to same-sex couples

    Sure there is. Its in the phrase, "We the people."

  5. Pete
    Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Bman, it didn't stop civil rights, I dont think it wil stop this.

  6. Posted May 4, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Pete:

    I'll take the other side of that bet.

    It is actually a sure thing, and hence not a legitimate bet.

    The sure thing is identifiable by even a six year old.

    Race does not equal gender.

    If it did, how much easier your task would have been!

    As it stands, not even a six year old is susceptible to your assertion.

    It is ridiculous on its face.

    Which is one excellent reason why you will lose big in NC, even among the young, even among the Democrats......

    They just aren;t buying what you folks are selling, Pete.

  7. Pat
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    The people you're trying to harm are part of the people, bman.

    And are right and wrong determined by popularity now?
    We're discussing something that exists to harm people. It's extraordinarily evil, and that is not a debatable or subjective point!

  8. Posted May 5, 2012 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    Robert:

    Please never play poker.

    It would be a terrible mistake.

    It won't be close in NC.

    I figure marriage corruption loses by 16-23 points.

  9. Robert
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    I thought legal divorce corrupted marriage?! The religionists don't seem to mind that, though, because straight people like to do it. I think gay couples getting married is good for marriage, not corrupting.

  10. bman
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    Pete->Bman, it didn't stop civil rights, I dont think it wil stop this.

    It stopped polygamy from becoming legal and it can stop gay sex marriage as well.

  11. Robert
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Banning polygamy didn't violate anyone's civil rights, or the guarantee of equal protection to all citizens. That's a big difference. And since marriage equality is already the law in several states and the nation's capital, the argument isn't about stopping gay marriage, but rather, is it constitutionally required?

  12. bman
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    Pat->The people you're trying to harm are part of the people, bman.

    Polygamists can make that same claim. They can say opponents of polygamy are harming a part of the people.

    Those who want brother and sister marriage can also claim they are part of the people being harmed because they can't marry.

    In other words, anyone who wants to enter a maladaptive form of marriage can claim they are being harmed in some way by the denial of that form of marriage.

    Society is being protected from moral harm, however, because maladaptive forms of marriage (to include gay sex marriage) are not legalized.

    Its better to prevent moral harm to society than to try to cure it later.

    And are right and wrong determined by popularity now?

    So where do you say right and wrong comes from?

  13. bman
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Robert->Banning polygamy didn't violate anyone's civil rights, or the guarantee of equal protection to all citizens.

    Whether it be threesome marriages, harems, brother sister marriage, or gay sex marriage, there is no civil right to have an alternative form of marriage legalized by society.

    And since marriage equality is already the law in several states and the nation's capital, the argument isn't about stopping gay marriage, but rather, is it constitutionally required?

    In every case you mention liberal politicians or judges used their office to impose the legalization of gay sex marriage on the people.

    The question is whether the people will exercise their right to vote it out when the opportunity presents.

  14. Barb Chamberlan
    Posted May 5, 2012 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Go NC !

    Run like you're 5 points behind !

  15. Posted May 5, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Banning polygamy didn't violate anyone's civil rights, or the guarantee of equal protection to all citizens.

    Correct. The ban applied equally to Mormons and Protestants, men and women, homosexuals and heterosexuals.

    And since marriage equality is already the law in several states and the nation's capital, the argument isn't about stopping gay marriage, but rather, is it constitutionally required?

    It is not. There is no evidence that the 14th Amendment was understood, at the time of ratification, to require this.

  16. Posted May 6, 2012 at 2:11 am | Permalink

    What is truly remarkable about the blowout win for marriage shaping up in NC........

    The marriage corruption movement outspent us 2-1.

    Those are some mighty expensive votes.....