From the Vote FOR Marriage NC campaign:
All across the state, we are finding North Carolinians mobilizing in defense of marriage. Just the other week, thousands gathered on the lawns of the capital to voice their support of the Marriage Protection Amendment. Hear from some of them in their own words.
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More proof of our impeding theocracy. True Americans need to stand up against this Christian-centric form of government.
"We believe that scripture is clear about the Bible, and the Bible teaches that marriage is one man and one woman."
"God institutes one man and one woman in the Bible."
"God instituted one man, one woman as a family."
So, these folks are voting for the amendment based on their superstitions?
I live in South Carolina where we already have such an amendment. I wish I could vote for this amendment. It needs to pass and I hope it passes in a landslide!
Michael:
On our beliefs. You consider them superstitions, which is why we are engaged in a battle, at the ballot box.
Which we will win.
Hope this helps.
PS: These are fabulous and wonderful antidotes to the deeply evil "bog it" meme of the marriage corruption movement.
How wonderful it will be to watch their meme- to which they have attached such hopes and for which they have invested such rich treasure- collapse in flames on Election Day.
GO NC!
above should read "bigot"
Boo spellcheck!
Only when one of each sex is equally represented in each marriage is true equality accomplished.
Good stuff. Vote for marriage!
Crazy fools
Nice!
No one, whether they are straight, gay, white, black, yellow, green, male, female, or anything has a right to redefine marriage. No one.
"So, these folks are voting for the amendment based on their superstitions?"
Never mind all the eyewitnesses and first-hand accounts to Biblical truth, I suppose?
Superstition? Superstition?
Just take a look at a naked man and woman standing side by side; and compare it to a naked man and man or a naked woman and woman standing side by side. You will notice, if you are not blind (if you are blind you can feel), that only one of the couples is complete; that the other two our missing certain things; are incomplete. (And you can notice this before doing any dissecting, which would only confirm your initial observation.)
Superstition at it contemporary best, and in its most perfectly flagrant form, is believing that these two couples are truly equal (the same); that there is equality (no difference) between them. And you want to force our children to accept your flagrant superstitions?
Leave religion out of it if that's not your cup of tea; but simply open your eyes and you will come to understand the message.
I particularly like the young couple declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman. What a beautiful example they present of the complementary nature of man and woman!
You seem to forget The Declaration of Independence was also based on an appeal to God and theology.
Did you want to say the Declaration of Independence was based on superstition as well?
Some excerpts:
"...the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them...
" We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men... are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
A very excellent point Goodnews.
We sent that same message to outer space in 1972.
A gold plaque with the image of a naked man and woman was attached to the outside of the very first spacecraft to leave the solar system.
The idea was that extra terrestrials (space aliens) could see it and understand that that human race was two sexed.
Maybe Mike would prefer the image of two naked men on the outside of Voyager spacecraft instead.
Correction: That was the Pioneer spacecraft rather than Voyager .
@bman
Ah space! Exploration! Discoveries! The future! The endless creation; which encompasses and stimulates our own creativity, with our hopes and dreams, intellect and decency. Yes, there will be many new technologies, possibilities, ways of life and adaptations to take into account. But through it all, and among it all, there will be only one, conscious of its completeness, human species, with all its organs, chromosomes and possibilities; this ONE-human-species needs a name – and 'marriage' would do just fine.
P.S. At least space aliens would get the message; the people of earth are having a hard time deciphering the code.
bman:
Slam dunk.
Absolute smack down
Excellent posts, Good News and bman!
Ah space! Exploration! Discoveries! The future! The endless creation; which encompasses and stimulates our own creativity, with our hopes and dreams, intellect and decency. Yes, there will be many new technologies, possibilities, ways of life and adaptations to take into account. But through it all, and among it all, there will be only one, conscious of its completeness, human species, with all its organs, chromosomes and possibilities; this ONE-human-species needs a name – and 'marriage' would do just fine.
P.S. At least space aliens would get the message; the people of earth are having a hard time deciphering the code.
@overcame: yeah i thought he was pretty cute too!
Superstition?
So as Christmas is a LEGAL holiday, you go to work anyway, because you don't believe in that superstition?
So as our money has on it, "in god we trust," you don't use money?
So as the Pledge of Allegiance has in it, "one nation under god," you don't say the Pledge of Allegiance?
When an government official takes an oath of office, or when a court witness takes an oath to tell the truth,
he or she doesn't place his or her hand on a bible and end the oath with, "so help me god" ?
When belief in god and his laws gets in the way of what someone wants to do, call it "superstition," and throw it out.
The "Christian-centric form of government" was fine until now. All of a sudden, it's inconvenient.
Is it going to become illegal to teach this "superstition" in houses of worship?
Faye, apparently you are unaware that christmas has different meanings to different people. It has no one meaning. And you are obviously unaware of when, how and why "God" was added to money and the pledge. They are not original writings. And you are blantantly unaware the "God" means a mulitude of things to a mulitude of people. Your words show that you are capable of understanding only what things mean to you and what you chose to believe.
Faye, one more thing. this country did not start becoming christian centric til about 35-40 ago when right-wing polticians started pandering to the religious-right. Religion was never a part of governing our democracy for 200 years. Christian centric governing would be a Theocracy. Take a look at countries around the World where there is a Theocracy and ask yourself if you would like to live a such a place.
They don't even think that a person is one sex or the other, they now insist that people can be either sex, both sexes, or no sex at all, and that everyone has an equal right to reproduce with anyone of either sex.
People should only be allowed to reproduce as the sex they would most likely able to reproduce as using their unmodified gametes, with someone of the other sex.
We don't have to allow labs to try to enable same-sex reproduction or transgendered reproduction, we can say that would be terrible public policy, expensive and unethical, and simply prohibit it. The first step toward preserving marriage as a man and a woman is preserving man and woman as man and woman.
Oh look, people of faith standing up for equal marriage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sFwFZd_EZdo#!
So NOM, what's your reasoning for "protecting marriage". Oh right, there is none.
Sean,
Enough with the straw-man arguments in defense of you special rights tfor those that partake in your proclivity.
Not one single respondent in the presented videos provided a single rational for their positition; most notably not one of them were able to point to the tenants of their faith as a rational for not maintaing fedelity with their faith.
"this country did not start becoming christian centric til about 35-40 ago"
oh, so it wasn't 100 years ago when basically everyone went to church?
The only reason the religious right became the religious right was that the left emerged questioning core Judeo-Christian values.
I apologize for the typographical error in my previous response. I was laughing so hard soda started squirting out of my nose and I wet myself. ;o
"Christmas has different meanings to different people."
Christmas celebrates the birth of Jesus. That's what the CHRIST part of Christmas stands for.
"god means a mulitude of things to a mulitude of people."
The bible used in this country for government and court swearing-ins is the Christian bible. Exactly which "multitude of things" are you referring to? Example?
Excerpt from the text of President Lincoln's 1863 (149 years ago) proclamation, declaring that the last Thursday in November would be a day of national thanksgiving:
"I do, therefore, invite my fellow-citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next as a Day of Thanksgiving and Praise to OUR BENEFICENT FATHER WHO DWELLETH IN THE HEAVENS. . . done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of OUR LORD, one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three."
I don't know how to underline in a post,
so I put in Caps, the relevant sections which demonstrate which god is being spoken about.
The Continental Congress officially acknowledged the merits of Jesus Christ as the basis for forgiveness of sin.
Here are key statements by Congress in 1776 and 1777
“…..that it may please God, through the merits of Jesus Christ, mercifully to forgive and blot them [the sins of the people] out of remembrance…
“….and through the merits and mediation of Jesus Christ, obtain his pardon and forgiveness….”
You can verify this from the photocopies at the following link published by the Library of Congress. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel04.html
The nation has adhered to Christian principles from its founding.
We who uphold Christian principles in government are the true spiritual sons and daughters of the founding fathers.