"He said we lost our right to free speech when we walked into that classroom."
Dear Marriage Supporter,
He's 14 years old and goes to Church with his parents.
And he was recently kicked out of class and threatened with suspension by his teacher. What did he do wrong?
He disagreed with his economics teacher over the morality of homosexual conduct.
THAT'S IT!
Listen to Daniel Glowacki tell his story in his own words.
Entering his economics classroom, Daniel asked a question of the teacher: Why did a fellow student have to take off her Confederate belt buckle to enter the class, but the students had to listen to the teacher's own political activism?
For that, he was thrown out of class.
But that was just the beginning.
You have to watch this video to believe it.
As he left class, the teacher called him a racist and a bigot and told him that he was going to have Daniel suspended for bullying and harassment against homosexuals!
That began a campaign against Daniel...facebook, email, radio and television appearances...all decrying this 14-year-old boy as a bigot and a hater.
My friend, is this what society has come to?
We started the Marriage Anti-Defamation Alliance to shed light on the deplorable behavior of the radical same-sex marriage advocates who are running roughshod over the freedoms and religious liberties of Americans all across the country.
Please go to marriageada.org and watch this video. You and I need to be informed and we need to stand up to the bullies who are trying to tell us that we are second-class citizens for believing that marriage is between a man and a woman because children need a mother and a father.
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This is not relevant to marriage but is to those who are anti-gay.
School isn't a place for politics...but this kid should not have been suspended for expressing his own opinion.
I once got into a heated discussion with my economics teacher on the subject of Obamacare and it got to the point where she almost yelled at me. Mind you the discussion only lasted a couple minutes.
It's proof that Liberals don't tolerate dissenting viewpoints.
Carlos
What should happen to people who have a biblical understanding of sexual morality?
Jay McDowell is a hero.
AM: I'm not sure, but some would definitely be forced to marry their rapists according to Deuteronomy 22:28-29.
This is relevant to marriage, Carlos. The government enforced redefinition of marriage inevitably leads to the official state sponsorship of the genderless moral standards of a speical interest group. And the story reported here is yet another example of how our civil and religious liberties are beaten down by left wing facists who believe that the Constitution does not apply to anyone but them.
The only bigot in that economics class was the teacher himself.
bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.
GZeus
Particular marriage customs are not the same as sexual morality.
But you knew that.
GZeus needs to read a little more:
http://www.tektonics.org/af/ancientmores.html#dt2228
So... students give up their free speech rights when entering the classroom, but teachers do not?
Doesn't Michigan already have Constitutional amendment banning SSM? How could this be beacuse of 'government-enforced redefinition of marriage'?
Yes we do have that amendment in Michigan. I live near the town this happened in and I believe the teacher was the bigot here not the student. First the student was suspended and after the parents protested the school made a 180 degree turn and rightfully suspended that teacher. They should fire him for treating a student so badly.
AM: Nothing should happen to people that have a biblical understanding of sexual morality, no one is suggesting otherwise.
The teacher could of handled better, perhaps educating him in the teachings of Jesus Christ, who never condemed homosexuals.
What happened in that classroom is an example of how religious and civil liberties would be suppressed in favor of a left leaning ideology endorsed by the government in the guise of SS"M".
Carlos,
I am not religious,but Jesus never condoned homosexual activity.He would expect those who engaged in it to stop,repent,and never do it again.
No, Carlos, it isn't up to the teacher to give any alternative view of any particular religion. He shouldn't have handled it in the way this story suggests he did.
I am quite impressed with the comment of Queer NE above.
It is remarkable and welcome to see fair-mindedness deployed in this debate- I harbor no illusions concerning a possible rapprochement- this is now a culture war fight to the finish- but I am certainly hopeful that the peace can be negotiated on bounds of a decent respect for the humanity of the vanquished.
Carlos: there are plenty of statements against homosexual sex throughout the Bible, including among the statements of Christ's own apostles. There was no need for Christ to personally reiterate every single tenet of the Divine Law (He never said anything about kidnapping either, but that doesn't mean Christ supported kidnapping).
"This is not relevant to marriage but is to those who are anti-gay."
Not anti-gay; just anti-hypocracy.
Scrounger: the article doesn't say that this incident was the result of the redefinition of marriage, but rather the result of (quote): "the radical same-sex marriage advocates who are running roughshod over the freedoms and religious liberties of Americans all across the country." And yes, this teacher was clearly a same-sex marriage advocate. The article's point was that the attempt to silence any countervailing viewpoint has become characteristic of gay activism, and leftwing activism in general.
Jesus never condemed homosexuals. He did condem homosexuality. Same as when he did not condem the woman who committed adultery. But he did tell her to go and 'sin no more' and condemed adultery elsewhere in his teachings. The LGBT community tries to make out like those who are fighting against SSM hate homosexuals. We only hate what you are trying to do to marriage.
For every kid who's simply challenged on his religious-based bigotry, ten will have their skulls bashed in by those who share those views. Bigots are not the victims here.
Tim, also if you would, show me where in the bible Jesus spoke of homosexuality. To my knowledge he never did.
eliasasm,
"Homosexuality" was never mentioned in any of the Abrahamic faiths; the word did not come into existence until the late nineteenth century. Exclusively same-gendered sexual relations is a modern day concept; an ideology that has yet to establish a universaly agreed construct.
Additionally; the vast majority of hate crime committed against same-gendered sex enthusiasts are at the hands of like minded individuals. If you truly wanted to protect these miscreants from acts of violence you would be working to keep these people away from each other.
A teacher needs to be fired for not respecting diversity in the classroom.
You go Daniel! God bless you. My story at http://www.hope7.highpowersites.net. I witnessed the murder of a 17 yo boy when he said no to a homosexual rapist, the man threw him off a train in N. California killing him and then they attacked me for telling about it. You can contact Yuba Sutter Library in Yuba City and ask for article misleadingly titled MAN FALLS FROM TRAIN, ofcourse later they proved he was being molested and the man then attacked the others on board breaking one mans jaw...all to keep us silent! We are not talking about a sexual preference we are talking about an evil power and they will stop at nothing to stop anyone who stands in there way. They need help! You Go Daniel, you di dthe right thing. Public schools are becoming outdated and we need a new education system , this one is broken.
Its the Feb. 7th 1980 edition of the Appeal Democrat in Yuba City, California...and the young boy laid dying at my feet. I know the hatred we are dealing with and Im not afraid of them because God is not with them.
We dont kill people because they choose tolive a sinful life such as homosexuality but it most certainly is condemned by God and its very clear in the Bible. For those who choose to lie and say otherwise show they are ignorant of the Holy BIBLE.
eliasasm: you say : 'show me where in the bible Jesus spoke of homosexuality. To my knowledge he never did.' You are correct: That is, re: to your knowledge... Otherwise, you are incorrect.
If you have a Bible which I suspect you do not, it would probably cause your hand to fizzle, you can check out this reference
WHEN A MAN LAYS WITH ANOTHER MAN, AS HE WOULD A WOMAN THIS MAN SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH.
Revelations discueses it, Leviticus discusses it. I dont care whether you choose to see it or not but you are wrong.
Now that is not the way we deal with homosexuality today. Today we offer our prayers and help if desired, we dont kill anyone and we dont want them to kill themselves. It is and will always be a sin, but no different than many other sins in the BIble, some of which I am guilty of, so its your choice, its not a birth condition and their is no homosexual gene.
I would like to add that I do not hate the practicing homosexual, I too hate what they are doing to traditional marriage but I also hate what homosexuality does to them and to others.
did anyone ever think the teacher is a homosexual?
Greg: opposition to sodomy is not "bigotry", no more than opposition to any other sin.
Eliasasm: Jesus also never mentions incest, pedophilia, kidnapping, or a host of other things, but that doesn't imply endorsement of any of these. The Bible condemns homosexual sex at many other points. Jesus did not need to repeat everything that was already said elsewhere in the Bible. He was speaking to a Jewish audience that already knew the basics of the faith, after all.
When will these teachers and activists ever learn..
Daniel is the one being "bullied" here.I love it when these so called "tolerant" folks run up against someone that does not share their own twisted and perverse ideals and morals.They are the most hateful,veangeful,cruel people that there ever was.I wish that this moron jay mcdowell would pick on someone that is his equal......instead he takes out his frustrations on a 14 year old kid.Way to go,loser! your,ahem,"people" should be proud of you.
Yes, Davide, I had assumed the teacher was gay. One thing that's certain is that he's a ticking time bomb. The purple shirt thing is a bit weird, too, b/c it's meant to show solidarity for 6 young gay men who killed themselves. Does this teacher know that suicide is the 3rd leading cause of death for *all* young people? Does this mean he only cares about gay suicide? Suicide is tragic for anyone. Then Ellen pays that other young man $10K for defending the teacher's actions. The whole story is just bizarre.
It cracks me up how the homosexual community and their supporters try to twist the bible to fit how THEY CHOOSE to live their lives. That is like an adulterer trying to say "God made me this way". We make choices in our life and a lot of the choices we make are sinful. God did not cause sin, the devil and our own selfish choices caused sin, to say God made us a certain way is to say God put us in the world to condemn us-This is so far from the truth!!!!!
The teacher was eventually suspended for a day because of his actions. Therefore, the school did the right thing in the end. I am sorry this happened, but I am not sure why the student feels tha tit needs to be pursued further.
eliasasm: Looks like you have received a lot of answers already. What Jesus said depends on how you view the Bible. If you don't believe Jesus is the Son of God, then it doesn't matter what he says, you will reject it as coming from men. If you don't believe in the Trinity, then you will not believe that God and Jesus are one; therefore all the Old Testament verses against homosexuality and 'immorality' will mean nothing to you. If you don't believe that all scripture is God breathed, then you will reject the sayings of Paul in Rm. 1:25-27, 1Cor. 6:9-11. So, technically you are correct. Jesus did not mention homosexuality specifically while he was on earth. However, if you believe everything I mentioned above, then it is clear that the Bible says such BEHAVIOR is wrong. Also, thank you for the honest and polite question.
Marriage is a beach head for the homosexual. They get marriage - watch out the children are next. If you choose the homosexual lifestyle, that is up to you. Just don't foist it onto the rest of us!!!,
The concept of the right to association goes back to Biblical times when Kane murdered Able. God purportedly told the community that they were not to associate themselves with Kane; that Kane violated God's laws; not man's.
It appears that the marriage corruption movement have thought long and hard about what it is they needed to achieve; to separate this nation from its fidelity to the laws of nature and natures God.
@ barb so true! Many LGBT activists are borderline domestic terrorist. I would guess the teacher is gay and more than likely has a 'boy crush' on few students.
Domestic terrorists, davide? Care to tone down the rhetoric?
Hey davide - haven't seen you around here much lately. Good to see your insightful comments as one who has experienced the world of homosexual depravity.
Saying that someone he has never met probably wants to have sex with his students is an insightful comment? Let's all work together to raise the bar, shall we?
Thank you all for your replies. Just one thing though, it's all based on YOUR religious beliefs that you have CHOSEN to have and want put into law. Am I and everyone else not allowed our beliefs in the United States of America with liberty and justice for ALL?
Eliasasm: All laws are enacted based on someone's personal beliefs. Religious people have the same right to promote our viewpoint as you do. But many of the people who oppose same-sex marriage are non-religious, and some are atheists, hence it isn't just a matter of religious beliefs being codified into law. Some people have philosophical, practical, or legal concerns about SSM. To use one example : some people point out that marriage is regulated by the secular State only because it was originally designed to provide a stable environment for producing children and hence for producing new citizens; otherwise the State would have little reason to hand out marriage certificates and marriage benefits to anyone (ever wonder why the government doesn't give benefits to couples who are merely cohabiting, or those who are "going steady" but not married?) Since homosexual sex doesn't produce children, the State has no reason to grant benefits that were originally designed mainly to help with the burden of raising children, nor any reason to grant formal recognition to same-sex relationships just because the two people are romantically involved - the State is not a dating service in the business of certifying the fact that two people are in love. There are other purely secular arguments against SSM as well.
Eliasasm,
"Am I and everyone else not allowed our beliefs in the United States of America with liberty and justice for ALL"
You are free to believe as you please; you are not free to impose your beliefs on others if said beliefs are inconsistent with this nation’s history and traditions.
Your stated beliefs are not even consistent with the laws of nature. I suggest you establish a system of beliefs that is firmly rooted in something tangible; rather than tying your system of beliefs to transitory emotions that are not even quantifiable.
This republic was designed to protect future generations from the irreparable damage of popular culture; not enslave future generations to passing fancies.
The egotism of the marriage corruption movement is insulting.
Yeah, dn, insightful; beyond perception. Straight people don't call people who disagree with homosexual acts and so-called SS"M" "bigots" and "racists." As my daughter would say, "That's so gay!"
Straight people say thing like, "That's not very nice; homosexuals are people too;" or "How would you feel if someone disagreed with something you believed?" Straight people aren't that into the fight like you think they are.
I'm with davide - this guy identifies himself as a homosexual.
when LGBT activists are vandalizing and burning down our churches and bullying Christians, Jews, blacks and Latinos this is borderline domestic terrorism.
Well, I think it is intolerable the way the teacher reacted to the student about his freedom of speech. Even though they disagreed on principles the teacher is supposed to be a role model, and the fact that he reacted this way is ridiculous.
That being said, people on both sides of the aisle are bigots and intolerant to other opininons, lets not assume one side or the other is perfectly open minded. Ideally we could at least be peaceful while we argue about sensitive issues like this.
I will not state my opinion on this specific issue to avoid a long drawn out debate on this blog. I appologize for crashing the conservative party on this blog, but my friends (conservatives) posted the link, so I had to check it out. See we can get along, unless I am going to get tarred and feathered for posting this.
Your opinion on the teacher agreed with conservatives. No need for an apology there.
I have really given it my all in trying to have an understanding of those opposed to homosexuality and can't come up with anything logical. You have the religious argument, which is fine and you have the freedom to believe whatever anyone chooses to believe. But no one has the right to expect someone else to accept their religious beliefs. Any person's religious beliefs belong to that individual and is betweem them and "God", no one else. If what you believe that someone else does is sinful, that's "God's" business, not yours. If you are not being harmed, leave it to "God". And then we have the non-religious view against homosexuality nothing of which makes any sense and has no evidence to support any of it. The bottom line here is that homosexualtiy is a fact of Life and has existed since "God" created ALL that is. We are all still here living our lives so apparently homosexualtiy hasn't done anything harmful to Life as a whole. Have homosexuals done harmful things? Yes, but that has to do with the person, not their sexuality. Have religious people done harmful things? Absolutely. But does that mean all christians do harmful things? Something else that doesn't makes sense is reading comments on this blog that are really horrendous but somehow it's the other side. It seems ok for you but nobody else. It's seems as though some of you spend so much time watching everyone else you don't see what you are doing. "Godlieness" begins at home. What's further perplexing about all this is where the anti-homosexuality thought even began, who cast the first stone and how homosexuals are being persecuted for defending themselves, as though they are not allowed. I just don't understand, nor do I want to, why anyone would want to do anything to anyone that is going to have an effect on their life when that person has done nothing to me.
Gay marriage is legal in some parts of the world and in the US. My life has not been affected. Has yours?
eliasasm,
Nobody doubts you are incappable of understanding why anyone would be opposed to your "homosexual" religion. Afterall; you have already demonstrated a pronounced inability to understand the intent of your own reproductive system.
Members of your cult only feel as though they are defending themsleves because they never thought their victims would ever fight back. The Japanese made the same mistake back in WWII; and look how well that turned out for them.
Try to remember 'eliasasm' nobody has asked you to change the definiton, or construct of your sacred institution.
Eliasasm, well said. But don't try changing any minds here. It will never happen. And don't mind Randy. He's nothing more than a sad individual who's focused on people's reproductive organs and nothing more.
Eliasasm -
This site is about supporting marriage as the institution that unites a man and a woman with their biological offspring, an important societal and governmental interest. Supporting that interest does not imply adversity towards homosexuals or homosexuality; that's a separate topic, though one I am happy to discuss as one who participated in the homosexual lifestyle and has since left.
First, there is difference between adversity towards homosexuals and adversity towards homosexual acts. Yes, there are homosexuals, but 1) being homosexual is not an immutable trait (notwithstanding what the politically-motivated APA suggests); and 2) homosexual acts are a behavior, and all behaviors can be controlled. So when you put that together, it begs the question whether society should respect behaviors that are voluntary, committed by people who have adopted a politco-sexual identity? And the answer is, "No, it should not have to respect such behavior."
And indeed, up until 2003, homosexual acts were considered a crime in this country. Such acts are not only harmful to the participants because of misuse of the anatomy, but because of the nature of men's sex drives, men having "sex" with men results in extraordinary numbers of occurrences of "sexual" acts, resulting in the spread of deadly STDs, including HIV and hpv, carried into the female population by men who engage also in sex with women. Look at the CDC statistics for HIV rates in men having "sex" with men to see that this is not made up.
Think about it Eliaasasm. How would you feel about your son engaging in homosexual acts? It would sadden you, wouldn't it? And participating in such acts to the exclusion of the sexual act that humans are made for and which leads to reproduction?
Overcame, how would I feel if my son engaged in homosexual acts? The same if he engaged in heterosexual acts. Yunno, if homosexuality were as damaging to the whole of Life and society at large as you all try to claim it is, this whole world would have gone to hell in a handbasket by now. Homosexuality has existed as long as Life has and will continue to exist. Believe whatever you need to. But the observable fact remains and will continue to show that homosexuality has not had a negative impact on the whole of Life. And please people, homosexuality is not a lifestyle, it is a fact of life.
eliasasm,
"Homosexuality has existed as long as Life has and will continue to exist"
Yet another balled faced lie; shocking.
The word "Homosexual" was coined in the late 19th century. The idea of an individual living an exclusively same-gender sex lifestyle is a uniquely 21st century concept that has never been fully defined.
In a November 2011 1st Circuit Court of Appeals findings jurists noted that experts testifying in support of marriage revision could not even agree amongst themselves what the definitions of "Homosexual", "Gay", "Identity", "Orientation", etc. are.
You folks might as well call yourselves 'Goony-Ga-Ga's" for all the good it does.
elias -
I've no problem with whatever weird stuff people want to do in the privacy of their bedroom as long as it remains in the privacy of their bedroom. People do all sorts of odd things with their sexual organs; but it becomes a problem when it comes out of the bedroom. Homosexual acts can be learned - that 's a fact speaking from experience. Men having sex with men are responsible for most of the spread of HIV/AIDS in this country. Both of these examples affect me. In the former case, my kids and their kids, mainstreaming of homosexual acts as normal behavior exposes my kids and their kids to experimentation with a dangerous set of perverse acts; acts that not only spread disease, but cause anatomical damage and psychological issues. IN the latter case, HIV/AIDs, caused in large part by a group of guys who can't keep their snakes in their pants, have cost and continue to cost me, the taxpayer, billions of dollars in research and health care.
No damage to society? Your closing your eyes, elias; sucked in by the emotional aspect that people with same-sex attraction can be nice people too. But nice people are susceptible to bad things and participating in unhealthy behaviors.
If homosexuality were not learned behavior I might have different perspective; but I know for a fact that it is. And I've witnessed the lifestyle, and it's a sad existence.
Eliasasm: No one is arguing that homosexual sex destroys everything on the planet (you've constructed a strawman argument to debunk); and since only a small percentage of the population have engaged in homosexual sex, we would frankly expect it to have a much smaller negative impact than it actually has had. Instead, look at the percentage of AIDS cases and other venereal diseases which afflict homosexual men - in many regions, a majority of all AIDS cases involve men-who-have-sex-with-men (to use the CDC's term) although such men make up only a small percentage of the population.
But since the subject here is marriage, I think I've already explained why marriage certificates are not granted merely because two people happen to be in love - or do you think the government should also grant marriage certificates and benefits to couples that are cohabiting or dating exclusively? The same arguments used to justify gay marriage could be applied to those other cases as well if the argument were applied with any consistency.
OvercameSSA: great points, as usual.
My concern is about the over-the-top behavior of the teacher. Should we put laws in place that protect our children from being introduced to sexual behaviors and sexual topics in classes that are not specifically dedicated to sex ed? Wasn't this an economics class? To me, public schools should be concerned that sexual harassment laws are not violated in the schools. Daniel is only 14 years old.
Also, the fact that the teacher called the student a racist seems to show that he actually associates homosexual behaviors with race?
I think some people consider homosexuals to be a kind of different race, instead of a set of individuals who exhibit non-heterosexual behavior. We do not use behavioral criteria to distinguish people of different races.
We need to protect our children from any agenda that is willing to abandon the protection of children in order to advance that agenda.
Right back at ya, AW!
Rejoice that you suffer dishonor for the name.
Acts 5:41
"It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." --Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, 393 U.S. 503, 504 (1969).
Again, bringing up a topic concerning sexual behaviors in a class that is not designated sex ed is inappropriate. Daniel is only 14 years old. Adults have the right to prevent people in authority from discussing sexual matters in front of their children. It is a form of sexual harassment.
Activists such as the teacher are always calling for tolerance of homosexuality, but are the most intolerant group on the political scene in Australia and America today.
Where is "tolerance" for the beliefs of others? Our country was founded on the premise of religious liberty, how dare these pedagogues treat a student in their care in this manner? THEY should study their responsibilities as educators. IF we dare not inject morality teaching into our schools, how do they DARE insist that OUR children learn THEIR "moral" precepts?
The teacher's example is a forewarning.
He did what the SSM campaign teaches. Gay dentity politics is asserted as supreme to all other considerations.
The ways and means of the SSM campaign are bigoted, inherently, because the goal of the SSM campaign is to impose an idea (the SSM idea) which is imbued with gay identity politics which is its true core meaning. The SSM idea is steeped in pro-gay bigotry that is analogous with white supremacy.