Comments on: UNITED! Stand with NOM Against Baseless Attacks from the NY Times!

By: Suzanne Todd

Suzanne Todd — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 21:46:26 +0000

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By: lhf

lhf — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:53:46 +0000

What is the atheist argument against gay marriage? The reason the state grants marriage licenses is to ensure a bond between the legal father (biological or adoptive) and the child so that the child does not become a burden to everyone. We already see what has happened as marriage has been undermined by domestic partnerships, civil unions, and unmarried cohabitation. Dropping the one man-one woman definition will open the door to not only "marriage" between two men or two women, but multiple partner marriage of all types. The Dutch, I think the first country to permit homosexuals to marry has already permitted a 3 person marriage, so you can directly point to the consequences of further undermining the existing definition. Under the new scheme, should homosexuals be granted the "right" to marry, would marriages be allowed between 40 year old men and 16 year old boys? Why wouldn't it be a violation of my civil rights to be prohibited from marrying my sister? Or my brother? I could go on, but you get the picture. The slippery slope is the best argument and I don't know why it's not more widely used. Obama is claiming that the Republicans will undermine middle class families - that has already happened under the broad welfare state and adding marriage for homosexuals will continue the course in that direction.

By: Mark Jansen

Mark Jansen — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:13:44 +0000

So quoting your own memo's against you is a "baseless attack" nowadays? That makes sense, coming from the people who use made-up statistics and fairy-tales to prove their points.

By: Greg

Greg — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:29:34 +0000

Baseless? The editorial was BASED on NOM's own internal document.

By: akork

akork — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 19:51:26 +0000

@Louis E. In what way does homosexual marriage threaten heterosexual marriage. Do you believe that if SSM was not allowed (as it isn't in most states) that homosexuals would start marrying people of the opposite sex and raising families? Why would you believe they would do that? Conversly why would homosexuals marrying decrease the frequency in which heterosexual couples marry? That is the thing I do not understand. Why does one preven the other, its not like the Unites States has some sort of limit on the number of marriages it can issue in a year and so SSM is somehow taking away from that limited number in a way that prevents heterosexuals from marrying yet you are acting like that is somehow the case.

By: TC Matthews

TC Matthews — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:53:34 +0000

"Blacks, whites and Hispanics...Republicans, Democrats and Independents...Catholics and Protestants, Mormons, Jews and atheists...All standing together for the good of marriage!" It's a beautiful thing.

By: Louis E.

Louis E. — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:47:24 +0000

Michael,I'm a non-religious theist (I see it as impossible for there to be no Infinitely First Cause,but can see no credible evidence that the IFC writes books,has an official fan club,or involves itself in any "personal" way in our affairs...it is largely beyond our comprehension)...my opposition to SSM is based on the overwhelmingly greater importance to humanity of opposite-sex relationships meriting a perpetual guarantee of preferential treatment for such relationships.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:13:37 +0000

What are the atheist arguments against same sex marriage?

By: Ash

Ash — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:24:00 +0000

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