The two Catholic bishops of North Carolina have responded to President Obama's announcement that he opposes the May 8th Marriage Protection Amendment, as LifeSiteNews reports:
“In his comments on the upcoming referendum in our state, the president regrettably characterized the marriage amendment as a matter of discrimination,” [the bishops] wrote, adding: “While we are respectful of the office of the president, we strongly disagree with this assessment.”
“His stated opposition to the referendum on the marriage amendment in North Carolina is a grave disappointment, as it is reported to be the first time the president has entered into this issue on the state level, further escalating the increasing confusion on the part of some in our society to the very nature of marriage itself.”
The Catholic Church has strongly supported the amendment, which will appear on the ballot during the May 8 primary election. The state’s pro-family organizations say they are thankful for the bishops’ leadership.
... The bishops’ letter states, “Children have the right to the indispensable place of fatherhood and motherhood in their lives as they grow, are loved, nurtured, and formed by those whose unique vocation it is to be a father and a mother through the unique bond of one man and one woman in marriage.”
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Tell nObama that i approve (So what?) of the N. Carolina Marriage Amendment because it is not legal discrimination that so many people decide not to marry another person of the same-sex. If it was legal discrimination, we would have to marry one, or worse, later, two or 3. Gross! As President, he has no business in N. Carolina's ballot initiatives, and neither do i. Plus, many of us, we will de-throne him.
He is also escalating the confusion around his "evolving" position on marriage.
Yes Obama and Lucifer have said the same thing.Isaiah 14, Lucifer looked upon his own beauty and wisdom – attributes created in him by the Lord –'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly in the recesses of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.' Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol, to the recesses of the pit. Those who see you will gaze at you. They will ponder over you, saying, 'Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, who made the world like a wilderness and overthrew its cities, who did not allow his prisoners to go home?'” (Isaiah 14:12-18).
I think the GOP presidential candidate should jump all over what can be construed as a belief by the President that definition of marriage should be changed. If he's against the amendment, then he is for same-sex marriage, which means, essentially that he believes men and women are interchangeable.
And your son "Johnny" will be taking his friend "Tommy" to the prom, because the schools will be teaching, against the will of parents, that same-sex couples are just like opposite sex couples. And one day Johnny will tell you that he his HIV positive, because he was indoctrinated into a homosexual lifestyle.
@resist: you're right. straight people never get HIV. all gay people do.
and we always take into account one's health status before issuing a marriage license.
Ah - straight people get HIV all the time. And not all gays get it. I don't have the figures right in front of me, but it's nothing like what you've portrayed, nova. In fact, the first documented American to come down with it was a straight man. Please don't tell everyone this is a gay disease. That's just not true.
I don't have children in school right now. Does anyone know specifically if they are taught in the classroom about living situations? Straight ones? Are they taught that every child must have a father and a mother? I'd love to hear about that and pass it on.
BTW, I have it on good authority that gays will continue to have children if they want to, regardless of whether their 'marriage' is legal or not. So those kids will grow up with same-sex parents no matter what you do. SO - how is denying the kids' parents a marriage going to help the kids?
It seems like everyone's argument against SSM is that the kids of that marriage will suffer. Well, they will, anyway. It's not illegal for them to have children.
I am much more concerned about straight people who have children without the slightest concern for marrying each other. The kids in those situations don't have a mother and a father - or even two parents of any kind. They only have one parent. Here's a statistic I DO remember: 75% of black women who are mothers are unmarried. Now THOSE kids, I'm worried about.
Another thing: You're worried about your kids being taught that gay is okay, and that a gay person will somehow indoctrinate your kids into the gay way of life. I say, TRUST YOUR KIDS. If you've taught them your family's values, if you've done your job as a parent, your kid will know what is wrong and right. And one other thing - gay people are not after your kids. Gays want to have sex with - - GAY PEOPLE! They don't want to have a relationship with straight people! Gays get no pleasure at all from persuading a straight person to have sex with them. Oh, I suspect that a small percentage of gays (about equal to the percentage of straights) are predatory and want to have immoral disgusting sex with minors. But it's not because they're gay - it's because they're child molesters. "Straight" child molesters, if there is such a thing, are the vast majority of such predators.
These things have all been shown in widely-read and widely-accepted studies and journals.
One last comment: why oh why are straights (like the people at NOM) so incredibly obsessed with gay sex? They think about it 24 hours a day. That's sick! They think about gay sex WAY more than gay people think about gay sex. Does anyone here actually know any of these marriage activists? What are they like?
alice j
@nova - 1 in 5 homosexual men have HIV. Other STDs are also overly expressed in the homosexual male population over heterosexuals.
The point is, parents don't want their kids to be homosexual; it's a disappointment that loving parents will accept but are never really happy about.
Teaching homosexuality as equivalent to heterosexuality exposes sexually impressionable children to homosexual experimentation and discourages resistance to homosexual urges. Sexually confused children or those who've perhaps had a bad experience with the opposite sex might be more inclined to "give up" on being heterosexual if taught that homosexuality is "normal."
Teaching that homosexuality is normal does not change the fact that only a very small minority of the world is homosexual. A child who adopts homosexuality because of its claimed sameness to heterosexuality is in for a disappointment and is faced with a lifetime of being different from the vast majority of society.
In trying to give equality to those who are already committed to the homosexual lifestyle, we discourage others to avoid the lifestyle altogether.
@Nova
It's more rampant among the homosexual population.
"and we always take into account one's health status before issuing a marriage license."
Who says you need a marriage license to be married? If marriage is a civil contract between two people, then why do you need the governments blessing? If all you want are the benefits and rights that come with marriage, then a civil union will suffice. Call your private union whatever you want, but marriage should legally be defined between a man and a woman.
And most homosexual marriages aren't monogamous.
We get it. Obama supports same-sex marriage but won't openly support it because he wants to remain attractive to social conservatives. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
@ResistUSA (#7) - How do you know whether LGBT persons suffer from "disappointment"? How do you know that being "different" is such a terrible burden? The suffering most LGBT persons experience is rooted in a life of bullying, conflict and disapproval.
Doug -
I meant that the parents are disappointed; I say that as a parent.
Yes, bullying, conflict, and disapproval are products of being "different;" you can't legislate away human nature and the propensity to look at and treat different things differently. Sometimes being different can be a good thing, e.g., specially talented people; but no one's really envious of someone being homosexual. Indeed, with the desire to imitate heterosexual relationships through marriage, we know that homosexuals are trying their best not to be "different," even though they are. I suppose one gets used to it, but it's still a burden that in some, if not many, cases can be avoided.
Poster#6 blabs the same old lies about so what if the children are taught that homosexual sex is good in the public schools.
Oh they are after our children that is why they want access to the public schools.
The more he does this the more he is showing that he lied to the voters in the 2008 election.
Hope and change was really I lied to you. All marriage supporters need to understand not to vote for him in 2012.
Gay columnist: let’s face it, we want to indoctrinate children
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-journalist-lets-face-it-we-want-to-indoctrinate-children
Resist, you are the biggesst Homophobe I have ever had the unfortunate oppotunity to come accros.. Do you even smell the vile you spew? Being who one is, is not in for a disappointment and faced with a lifetime of 'being different'. Are you insinuating everyone is the same? Would that be a great world, a bunch of clones? Why do you assume gays are dissapointed, I am one and know many, I am and they are not dissapointed, however I know many str8 people full of dissapointed and aver extremely 'different'. You are a sad sad incividual, may god help you!
Resist, you are the biggesst Homophobe I have ever had the unfortunate oppotunity to come accros.. Do you even smell the vile you spew? Being who one is, is not in for a disappointment and faced with a lifetime of 'being different'. Are you insinuating everyone is the same? Would that be a great world, a bunch of clones? Why do you assume gays are dissapointed, I am one and know many, I am and they are not dissapointed, however I know many str8 people full of dissapointed and aver extremely 'different'. You are a sad sad incividual, may god help you!!
(can't)Resist, you are the biggesst Homophobe I have ever had the unfortunate oppotunity to come accros.. Do you even smell the vile you spew? Being who one is, is not in for a disappointment and faced with a lifetime of 'being different'. Are you insinuating everyone is the same? Would that be a great world, a bunch of clones? Why do you assume gays are dissapointed, I am one and know many, I am and they are not dissapointed, however I know many str8 people full of dissapointed and aver extremely 'different'. You are a sad sad incividual, may god help you!
(trying to)Resist, you are the biggest Homophobe I have ever had the unfortunate oppotunity to come accros.. Do you even smell the vile you spew? Being who one is, is not in for a disappointment and faced with a lifetime of 'being different'. Are you insinuating everyone is the same? Would that be a great world, a bunch of clones? Why do you assume gays are dissapointed, I am one and know many, I am and they are not dissapointed, however I know many str8 people full of dissapointed and aver extremely 'different'. You are a sad sad incividual, may god help you!
(wishhecould)Resist, you are the bigesst Homophobe I have ever had the unfortunate oppotunity to come accros.. Do you even smell the vile you spew? Being who one is, is not in for a disappointment and faced with a lifetime of 'being different'. Are you insinuating everyone is the same? Would that be a great world, a bunch of clones? Why do you assume gays are dissapointed, I am one and know many, I am and they are not dissapointed, however I know many str8 people full of dissapointed and aver extremely 'different'. You are a sad sad incividual, may god help you!
(hateshimself)Resist, you are the biggest Homophobe I have ever had the unfortunate oppotunity to come accros.. Do you even smell the vile you spew? Being who one is, is not in for a disappointment and faced with a lifetime of 'being different'. Are you insinuating everyone is the same? Would that be a great world, a bunch of clones? Why do you assume gays are dissapointed, I am one and know many, I am and they are not dissapointed, however I know many str8 people full of dissapointed and aver extremely 'different'. You are a sad sad incividual, may god help you!
(haeshimself)Resist = Hateful Homophobe!
F@!# YOU NOM MODERATOR!
MODERATOR - AFRAID YOU WILL LOSE A DOLLAR FROM ONE OF YOUR IDIOTS WHEN THEY LEARN THE TRUTH FROM OTHERS, THAT'S WHY YOU ALLOW ONLY HATE ON YOUR PAGE?
hahaha. Ok, whoever let all that through, that's funny. Richard, you're a sad man. Truly.
Barb, great link! Indoctrinating children is central to the agenda. Kids are too little to think for themselves, they are very emotionally driven. It's wrong to influence them contrary to their families' wishes.
Let me guess Richard Cortijo.... you've been visiting Starbucks three times a day------
Jaxon
New keyboard needed.
Non Starbucks beverage involved.
@ Richard
The worst kind of bigotry seems to come from
those with serious doubts in their own beliefs.
I pity you if that helps.