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NOM Disappointed in New Hampshire House Failure to Enact Compromise Legislation

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 21, 2012

Contact: Anath Hartmann or Elizabeth Ray (703-683-5004)


"We will hold legislators accountable for their votes today." —Brian Brown, NOM President—

National Organization for Marriage

Washington, DC — The following statement made be attributed to Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM):

"We are very disappointed in the failure of the New Hampshire House of Representatives to pass compromise legislation restoring marriage and providing for civil unions for same-sex couples. This was the law prior to marriage being hijacked by legislators who accepted hundreds of thousands in campaign contributions from gay marriage supporters without ever telling voters they intended to redefine marriage. We consider any vote cast against HB 437 to be a vote in favor of gay marriage, and we will act to hold every legislator accountable for such a vote.

"While we are disappointed in this vote today, we remain committed to giving the voters of New Hampshire the opportunity to restore the traditional definition of marriage. The only time gay marriage activists are able to win is when they can bypass the people and get activist judges or legislators to do their bidding, usually after plying them with large campaign contributions.

"This is a sad day for New Hampshire families who in 2010 had elected what they thought was a solid pro-marriage majority. They were once again let down by politicians who promised them one thing and then left them at the altar when the vote was on the line. These legislators will be held accountable."

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94 Comments

  1. Stefan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    And it wasn't even close...

  2. Herb
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    We've seen enough of you here in NH. Now go away.

  3. Mitch Wood
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    NH legislature to NOM: we're just not that into you.

  4. Halleck
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Haha!

  5. Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    The state motto says it dramatically: "Live free or die." Good for the state legislators for recognizing that freedom must apply equally to everyone.

  6. TPAKyle
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    I'd say we're looking at a trend. Withholding important benefits and responsibilities to gay and lesbian families is no longer acceptable to a majority of Americans. Efforts to vilify and demean upstanding and taxpaying citizens simply because of different sexuality is no longer a commonly acceptable practice. Today's vote is one more demonstration of the sea change taking place. As long as I or my church or pastor are not required to engage in or conduct same sex marriages, well, quite frankly I do not see what the problem is. Who am I to judge others?

  7. Lefty
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    @Stefan

    No, indeed. It wasn't close at all.

    If you look at polls, you see that rank-and-file Republican voters are quite solid on this issue. We know where they stand. But the grand conservative coalition that drove the GOP for the past three or four decades is plainly cracking up. If it weren't, you wouldn't see an outcome like this.

  8. *chuckles*
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Brian Brown - what, you are going to hold 211 legislators accountable? That is some epic campaign you are going to pointlessly embark on.

    The simple fact is you no longer have the power to lie, bully and scare boh voters and legislators into rejecting marriage equality.

    Look at the facts: marriage equality support steadily rises. Young people (millenials) OVERWHELMINGLY support gay marriage. Internationally, gay marriage continues to grow and blossom.

    The simple fact is that gay marriage is inevitable. All we would have to do is wait for this bigoted generation to expire.

    I look forward to the day when federal marriage equality exists in the US Brian Brown, and you have to forcibly accept you exist on the wrong side of history.

  9. AJ
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Awwww, now loving gay couples can continue to marry.

  10. T.Pryor
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    face it, the fight for inequality in the US is a losing venture.

  11. tony wichowski
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Up next, repeal the Emancipation Proclomation! Return our nation to its godly roots!

  12. Lynda
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Equality in America, what a concept. Hooray!!! NH!!!

  13. Greogry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    More threats - that won't work. Progress is a persistent thing.

  14. susan rosenthal
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Congratuations to NH for preserving marriage equality. It is going to be pretty difficult to target over 200 legislators to hod them accountabe for their votes. The tally was not even close.

  15. Greogry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Based on his appearance on MSNNC today, I think that Brian was convinced that the votes were there. If I had to bet on the future I would say that Maine is a toss-up; Maryland probably goes to NOM but Washington State will probably enact full marriage equality. I seriously doubt that either MN or NC are going to adopt constitutional amendments.

  16. Ha Ha Ha!
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    It just goes to show. NOM doesn't know what it's talking about. The population is over your twisting of the issues. to make it out to be something it is not. Marriage is Marriage. Keep praying to protect the sanctity of marriage its working. We find it sacred as well.

  17. Zack
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    Disappointed but I want to hear the reasoning from these legislators. No doubt they supported the repeal but perhaps there was something they didnt like. Maybe they wanted to all out ban legal recongition. Some conservatives are stubborn like that.

  18. Evan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Why isn't this at the top of the blog roll?

  19. al
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    In other words, Brian - "WAAAAAAAAAH!'

  20. Chad
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    NOM is on the ropes! Victory in New Hampshire!

    Loved your apocolyptic email Brian! good stuff as always.

  21. Steve
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    "We will hold legislators accountable for their votes today." —Brian Brown

    The legislators do not answer to NOM. The represent the citizens on New Hampshire; and poll after poll shows that the public overwhelmingly does NOT want marriage equality repealed. The legislators reflected that position today.

  22. Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    "We are very disappointed in the failure of the New Hampshire House of Representatives to pass compromise legislation restoring marriage and providing for civil unions for same-sex couples."

    You make it sound as if marriage between heteros had been taken away as well! Here's the translation:

    "We are very disappointed in New Hampshire not hating gays as much as we do, and ruling to allow them the same dignity as every other human being instead of relegating them to second-class citizens like we demanded."

    Awww...sucks to be you! Score one more for Lady Liberty and Madam Justice! Way to go, NH!!!

  23. Johnny
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Have faith Brian and remember Meshach, Shadrach and Abnego. The "law" said that you had to bow to a golden idol and they refused and God saved them and He will save us. I just hope I'm not standing next to any of these gay enablers when God has decided enough is enough.

  24. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Zach I'm with you on that issue... I wonder too if the vote was a "NO" for same sex marriage not for get...NOM will need to do some investigative work.
    Personal, I feel there should be no compromise; SSMs, SSUs should be banned in NM. In view of this logic, the failed bill may be a plus not a minus for NOM supporters and the like. Time will tell... More importantly, we don't give up until marriage is defined in NM as between one man and a woman,period.

  25. truthtalker
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Another victory for all Freedom Loving Americans and the Constitution of The United States of America. Praise Jesus!

  26. Seth Thayer
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Dear Brian: The people of New Hampshire did elect a pro-marriage legislature and that was reflected today in the vote. The vote for marriage between loving and committed couples.

    Thank you NH for doing the right thing.

  27. TPAKyle
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    I had previously provided a thoughtful comment, but I can only assume, since it was moderated, that it was deemed inappropriate propaganda for this board.

    That said, in the current popular thinking, NOM has a log way to go to achieve it's goals.

  28. Louis
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Hey, Johnnie, maybe your god will get mad at marriage equality in NH and send more tornadoes through those righteous red states!

  29. Johnny
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    I get so tired of hearing homosexuals referred to as "loving" and "committed" when everyone knows they are the most promiscuous people on the planet. I live in NY and the gay men here are known for their indescriminate sexual activities. There is a park downtown where all the gays go to pick up complete strangers to have unprotected sex. Loving and committed. Give me a break.

  30. Johnny
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Hey Louis

    I hope you weren't intending for me to be impressed with your blasphemy so let me change my statement. I hope I'm not standing next to you when God punishes you for taking His name in a vain and disrespectful manner!

  31. Louis
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    How often are you at that park, Johnnie?

  32. Louis
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Hey, Johnnie, I couldn't care less what you think of what I shave to say.

  33. cany
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Not even close. Good on New Hampshire.

  34. ellid
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    @Johnny -

    Thank you for being the very dictionary definition of a bigot. May God someday forgive you for your rejection of His words:

    "Love one another as I have loved you."

  35. Peter Formaini
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    I have little doubt that Johnny's father is a frequent visitor at said park. :D As well as local Republican officeholders/

  36. Karen Grube
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    These legislators once again failed to listen to the voters and voted to silence them on this issue. That is completely reprehensible, and I expect those who voted against this common-sense legislation to be booted out of office just like the last legislature in 2010.

    Don't give up! Keep up the pressure to bring this to the voters. Keep up the phone calls and emails. DO NOT STOP NOW! No legislature should ever be allowed to impose this on a state. EVER! Make it clear that the voters of New Hampshire want their voices heard and DO NOT want to be silenced on this issue.

  37. Sharoney
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    You people, like the segregationists, are on the wrong side of history.

    BTW, you can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.

    May your bigotry (and the company of your fellow bigots) comfort you in the lonely days ahead while marriage equality and civil rights for all becomes the law of the land..

  38. Jan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    "Activist legislators"? Yeah, it really bugs me when activist legislators do all that legislating from the... legislature.

  39. Zack
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Im telling ya nom. A conservative governor would have swayed those votes in your favor. try again after the elections.

  40. Ash
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    The real Ash, i.e. the one who supports NOM, did not make comment #7.

    I have a weird feeling that I know who this troll is.

  41. J. Morales
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    My pastor was just talking about Ephesians 6 and the armor of God. That passage tell us to "stand firm". He made the great point that the battle has already been won. We're just holding the line until the King returns. No matter what happens in NH or elsewhere, we already know how this ends. It doesn't mean we shouldn't fight for marriage, but it does mean that we should take heart and not be discouraged.

  42. Fush Yumeng
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    ""We will hold legislators accountable for their votes today." —Brian Brown, NOM President—"

    All 211 of them? Better get busy, you've got a lot of work to do.

  43. Barb Chamberlan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    We all know it wasn't you, Ash. Somebody needs to call Terminix.

  44. Ithakatz
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    Once again NOM has dropped the ball. No...twice in one day! You failed in New Hampshire to invalidate my cousin's marriage to his partner, and their beautiful autistic bi-lingual adopted son (okay, he's a trial, but a trial in passe-simple, so he whines like De Gaulle and corrects the diction of my cousin's husband, who is a native French speaker). And now I can't even have over-priced coffee from the B&N where my daughter works. Fix this! I can't give you any more money if you can't fix the above.

  45. AD
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    This is only the beginning. Marriage equality is inevitable, because it's the right thing to do.

  46. Leah
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Even some GOP legislators can see that heterosexual marriage is in no way threatened by marriage equality.

    There may be hope for America after all.

  47. Charles J. Mueller
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Hey Johnnie,

    Indiscriminate sexual activities? You mean that straight people do not have indiscriminate sex?

    There are dozens of clubs and organizations in the NYC area where heterosexuals gather to meet other single and like-minded people who also pick up complete strangers to have unprotected sex.

    Your point is?

  48. christine
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    You know I always try to look at both sides of a issue;like abortion, or drug testing for welfare.Myself, I'm pro choice but i can see the point of pro lifers and i could see why u would want someone to b drug tested before receiving welfare...that being said I can't see whats wrong with same sex marriage and I can't wrap my mind as to why you'd oppose it. It's not your marriage, its not your life stay out of it, if you dont like dont do it, you can always teach your kids to be biggots with you. They aren't hurting anyone let them do what they want. When they start shoving their beliefs down ur throat then u can protest it until then give it a rest

  49. frank keen
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    this is a complete disgrace,....these pigs are going down,....once we get rid of that communist socialist prick in office.......You are going to lose after the elections,.......once Mitt Romney throws that piece of scum out of office..... Stay the hell out of our schools ,....you better just leave our children alone......Time To Clean House In November......

  50. Ash
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Barb, lol :)

  51. Zack
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    @AD

    This isn't the beginning of anything.

    I believe it didn't pass because the governor promised a veto. Wait till the conservative controls the governorship.

  52. jim
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    fools. maggie stick a cross in your cunt

  53. Mike
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Congratulations New Hampshire, for standing (and staying) on the side of equality!!!

  54. JR
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    It failed 211 to 116, Zack. Dream on about a change at the Governor's mansion ending equality in the land of "Live Free or DIe."

  55. Sofia
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    NOM will have to boycott not only Starbucks but Coca-Cola, Microsoft, now against the Supreme court, against the legislators, against the whole world. Bigotry is not okay anymore.

  56. Dale
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    Wow, it's a good thing they didn't vote on christian gluttony, isn't it?

  57. KAK1958
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    They had the ability to override the governor's veto Zack.

    In my opinion, they didn't repeal it for the same reason a lot of states across the country are backing off on similar contentious issues - because the national party and powerful GOP operatives are warning Republican governors that the cultural stuff could hurt the GOPs chances in congressional, senatorial and presidential races. Remember, politicians are always after the middle, not the extremes. So for at least the next 7 months, the GOP wants to minimize positions that will turn off the independents.

  58. Louis E.
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    On the off chance that this makes it through moderation,I am not the "Louis" above and would never say what that Louis said).
    Seth,there is no excuse for "committing" to a same-sex sexual relationship,or for a government to regard such a relationship as a marriage.

  59. AJ
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 2:39 am | Permalink

    When all you have is threats and warnings of divine wrath that you can neither control nor predict...

  60. Little man
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    Take it from me, the moment you support civil unions for queers, you've given in to a redefinition of civil marriage. Civil unions for queers are civil unions for friendships, and oxymoron. it will take more time to get the NH Legislators to see the long-term effect in how they are not re elected if they voted for friendships to be tagged as civil marriage. Every State has its process, and it takes people to stand up for what marriage really means, and get educated as to why it is a civil regulation of partnerships in the first place. Aloha, and good wishes to NOM's staff who worked hard at raising public social awareness.

  61. Little man
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 2:45 am | Permalink

    AJ: and what do YOU have? We have science on our side. Can you beat that?

  62. Little man
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    NOM, we are on your side, and we will together see how the Washington State legislators are affected by the Washington State bizarre definition of marriage. Your work of education is laudable in this respect, and we know that people will see the consequences sooner or later, and will fight back politically. It just has to awaken them, first.

    Question: Why do legislators always have to pass new laws. Doesn't a State already have more laws than it can enforce?

  63. Son of Adam
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 5:30 am | Permalink

    "Indiscriminate sexual activities? You mean that straight people do not have indiscriminate sex?
    There are dozens of clubs and organizations in the NYC area where heterosexuals gather to meet other single and like-minded people who also pick up complete strangers to have unprotected sex."

    Two wrongs don't make a right, Charles.

  64. Rob
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    To the above commenters who are complaining that the NH legislators are ignoring the will of the people, you seem to be unaware of just what that will is. 59% of the people of New Hampshire do not want the marriage law repealed. 60% of the legislators voted against repeal. I do not believe that is coincidental.

  65. Marcia
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    And in the same week that Starbucks smacked down the oh-so-polite threat of a boycott. We're on a roll !

  66. David Argue
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    'When they start shoving their beliefs down ur throat then u can protest it until then give it a rest'

    Um, I think that's exactly what gay activists are doing now. When one arguement doesn't work (Like it's a civil right) they go on to another (loving, committed couples). Meanwhile, the reasons for NOT allowing SSM stay the same, because they are all valid arguements. We have the high ground in morality, theology, nature and science.

  67. Randy E King
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Little-man,

    Legislatures mostly pass new laws as a ruse to get their pet projects codified via stealth. Take SSM for example; adoption of SSM is the blunt force hammer being used to usher in a new era of state sponsored assaults on the freedom of religion and the freedom of speech - i.e. the 1st Amendment.

    The state did not create marriage, but here they are declaring it to be their right to change its meaning.

  68. ResistSSA
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Fret not, fellow supporters of marriage. You need only witness the support for Rick Santorum's candidacy when the country remains in economic turmoil.

    Rick Santorum has said few words about the economy, supposedly THE issue this year, and yet he is giving Romney (the man who helped destroy marriage in Massachusetts) a run for his money.

    If you think 2010 was a good year for Republicans, wait until November this year. I predict a sweep of both houses and the presidency for the GOP.

    I'll give a lot of credit for that to CNN and other major media outlets, whose homosexual staffs have kept the efforts to redefine marriage front and center. In trying to portray homosexuality as mainstream and normal behavior, they have inadvertently riled up the larger proportion of the population who knows the truth about homosexuality and likes marriage just the way it is.

    Plan on hearing a lot about the public schools and the attack on parental rights in California and Massachusetts this year. Homosexual activists went for a big power grab under the veil of a bad economy; when the pendulum swings back, it's going to swing back in a big way.

  69. Bryce K.
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Uh-huh... you go ahead and believe that, RSSA.

  70. Zack
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    @kak

    I disagree. They wouldnt have been able to override a veto because the measure would have been abandoned after such action. I think theyll try again when they get a governor who will sign it.

  71. ResistSSA
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    @Bryce -

    Rick Santorum! Heck, I'm pretty conservative but even I was worried about him getting the nomination because I think his proposed economic policies are are just a conservative version of big government. But a lot of people are apparently willing to overlook his big-government policies because of social issues.

    A lot of people are afraid of this current administration because it tells People what and how to think. Refusal to uphold federal laws (such as DOMA and DADT), ramming through government-controlled health care in the dark of night, legislative/court forcing so-called SS"M" and teaching homosexuality in schools, and unconstitutional attacks on religion. These are big steps towards government tyranny.

    It's gonna be a good November.

  72. ResistSSA
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    @Bryce, you're probably too young to remember Ronald Reagan's election following the failure of another misguided Democrat, Jimmy Carter. Look it up and watch history repeat itself.

  73. ResistSSA
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    @Christine says, "When they start shoving their beliefs down ur throat then u can protest it until then give it a rest"

    Spend a little time at http://www.Massresistance.com and read about what's being forced down the throats of children in public schools with parental dissent snuffed out. THAT is what happens when the definition of marriage is changed to pacify whining homosexuals.

  74. KAK1958
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    NYT 3/22/12 - When David Bates, a New Hampshire state representative, first introduced a bill aimed at overturning the state’s marriage equality law, he was dismissive of public opinion polling that showed about 60 percent of New Hampshire residents opposed repeal."

    So perhaps the legislators were just appropriately reflecting the will of their constituents.

  75. L. Marie
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    ""We will hold legislators accountable for their votes today.""

    For too long the silent majority has let a vocal, wealthy minority buy off politicians. That's changing. It's too bad the politicians in NH chose to ignore that. Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. Dismantling marriage isn't good for anyone.

  76. Louis E.
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    ResistSSA,Bryce is too young to vote,by his own admission.Let's hope he's turned against SSM by the time he turns 18.(My first vote was for Carter against Reagan,though I do consider Carter flawed).

  77. jasco
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Couldn't agree more with ResistSSA. Have also been supporting Santorum since I heard he was running. When it just a forlorn hope. Voted for him in our recent state primary and look forward to doing so again in November!

  78. Randy E King
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Still not sure if NH rejected the repeal, or just this particular piece of legislation due to riders that had no business being attached. Sadly; the (R)'s are just as bad as the (D)'s when it comes to trying to enrich themselves at the peoples expense.

  79. Zack
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    @kak

    Majority of iowans dont support same sex marraige but polling indicates repeal isnt at the top of their list.

    Just because majority opposes repeal doesnt mean they like it. Theyll try again when a conservative is elected governor.

  80. Dan
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Can NOM please list the names of the decent, moral and courageous Republican New Hampshire legislators that stood up to NOM's bullying tactics and voted in favor of marriage for gays and lesbians? I'd like to send those brave men/women gift certificates to Starbucks!

  81. Greogry
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    In fact, this was a foolish path for NOM.It only highlights the vacuousness of their arguments for inequality.

  82. Raynd
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    "This is a sad day for New Hampshire families who in 2010 had elected what they thought was a solid pro-marriage majority. They were once again let down by politicians who promised them one thing and then left them at the altar when the vote was on the line. These legislators will be held accountable."

    I love that we have organizations taking a stand against these RINOS. Whether you're on this side of the isle or that, marriage means something. The people can't be forced by government to redefine it.

  83. Dan
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    to Raynd:
    I'm getting frankly tired of hearing the same old talking points from you anti-marriage people. My husband and I have been married legally in CA for four years and you poor little straight people have not been denied any rights. Nor has marriage been redefined. The instutition of marriage is strenghtened by our marriage, in fact. Now, will you please cut it with the whining, and just get on with your own lives and marriages and leave our marriage alone? You would think you are a playground bully who is upset because someone stole your marbles. In short: GROW UP!

  84. Dan
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    I wish NOM would kindly post the names of all the courageous, decent and moral Republican legislators who stood up to their bullying and voting to uphold New Hampshire's pro-marriage law. I would like to send those brave legislators gift certificates to Starbucks!

  85. ResistSSA
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    @Dan says "nor has marriage been redefined"

    Well, Dan, if marriage hasn't been redefined then guess what: you're NOT married, Marriage has always been the union of a man and a woman. When other sexual combinations are included, then marriage has been redefined to be something else.

    So if you have a husband, I guess that makes you the wife? What strange times we live in.

  86. Bryce K.
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    If a Republican who supports same sex marriage is a RINO, then there are a whole dang lot of them in New Hampshire.

  87. Zack
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    This is rather aggrivating that people keep saying that the republicans in the NH legislature support same-sex marriage just becasue they voted down the repeal bill. Look at who is in the governorship then tell me at the 100% likelyhood of a veto it would still get passed. Unlike our liberal friends, conservatives in the GOP aren't as prone to political theatre. I guarentee it will come up again.

  88. MSquare
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Brian, dude, you gotta chill. Give it up, man.

  89. Posted March 22, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    "When all you have is threats and warnings of divine wrath that you can neither control nor predict..."

    They said the same thing to Noah, too....

  90. Little man
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Randy E King: I agree with you, but it's important to keep the focus on one topic - that marriage is not just about love, but is a civil institution which simply does not regulate our expressions of love. The more we emphasize religious arguments, though valid, the more it will look like as if only religious arguments exist to limit civil marriage to opposite-sex partnerships. In the mind of some people, as you can see in recent comment sections of the NOMblog, they only look at the appearances, and don't dig much further to find the civil arguments for marriage as is. The problem is each side of the debate (both movements) tend to communicate mostly within itself. So people get the idea that most people will defend bizarre civil marriage, disconnected from the engendering (not raising) of children. The opposition has managed to infiltrate legislatures, corporations, but only to show it is harmful, their infiltration. Time will tell. The more we emphasize civil arguments, the less we will help the opposition. Personally, the religious arguments simply endorse the natural marriage arguments, which are scientific to the extent formal social science is scientific. But most people don't know about science, and most don't know about law and legal procedures. Therefore, the opposition is able to put analogies and untruths in the mind of superficial people, and each one has a vote. The opposition has something to gain (lots), and so they pool their money to get what they want - public endorsement of their value system, imposed as the reigning secular system. Not only is it illogical, but it is also very damaging to an already weakened USA society. We must fight fire with fire, not religion against secularism. We must point out we all have a 'religion' of sorts, or value system. The worst statement NOM can make is that there are 'people of faith' (meaning their particular 'faith'), because it implies there are 'people of no faith'. That is a very untrue and damaging statement for our mutual cause. Aloha, and thanks for your always profound thoughts.

  91. Little man
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Raynd or L Marie: how did you get a picture to show up next to your user name on this comment thread? I would like to also show my picture or logo.

  92. AM
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    While this news is disappointing, I want to point out that when marriage was redefined in NH there were very robust religious/conscience exemptions included in the bill:

    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HB0073.html

    Now, I don't feel all that comfortable with legislation being introduced where fundamental rights have to be *protected* from the very laws that you are putting on the books, but....since there hasn't been any conflicts caused by ssm advocates suing people or closing down adoption agencies and the like, my guess is that the people of NH are not of the view that repealing this law is a top priority.

  93. John Noe
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    I am with you Resist in posts #37,40, and 42.

  94. Kathlene
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Poll after poll show that over 60% of New Hampshire residents favor keeping same sex marriage. The Republican-led legislature reflected that in their vote to not discriminate against our fellow residents. NOM can come back to NH again and again, but we'll just send you packing back home in defeat. But could you do us a favor before you go? Please take House Speaker O'Brien with you - he's out of step with NH voters. Thanks!

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