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The National Organization for Marriage Announces International "Dump Starbucks" Protest Campaign

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 21, 2012
Contact: Anath Hartmann or Elizabeth Ray (703-683-5004)


"Corporations should not take sides in a culture war that pits a company against the majority of the American people, and nearly all its consumers in some international markets."—Brian Brown, president—

National Organization for Marriage

Seattle, Washington — The National Organization for Marriage (NOM), America's largest group dedicated to preserving traditional marriage and the faith communities that sustain it, today announced it will lead an international "Dump Starbucks" protest of Starbucks Coffee Company to give voice to consumers around the world who support preserving marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Customers are invited to visit www.DumpStarbucks.com immediately to take action.

"Unlike our opponents, we do not target whole companies for the actions of an individual business executive in that company," said Brian Brown, NOM's president. "But Starbucks has taken a corporate position in support of redefining marriage for all of society. We will not tolerate an international company attempting to force its misguided values on citizens. The majority of Americans and virtually every consumer in some countries in which Starbucks operates believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. They will not be pleased to learn that their money is being used to advance gay marriage in society."

The new protest campaign was announced after the annual Starbucks shareholders meeting today in Seattle, where NOM spokesmen queried the board on its new policies promoting gay marriage and demanded protection against discrimination for employees, vendors and customers who disagree.

"We respect the important role of businesses in providing goods, services and jobs, and that people of diverse moral views build great companies working together," Brown said. "But Starbucks has corporately, as an organization, endorsed and helped pass gay marriage in the state of Washington. Its executive vice president of partner resources has stated that gay marriage "is aligned with Starbucks business practices and upholds our belief in the equal treatment of partners. It is core to who we are and what we value as a company." Corporations should not take sides in a culture war that pits a company against half the American people, and nearly all its consumers in some international markets."

NOM said it would mount a campaign to urge consumers to boycott Starbucks and contact the manager of their local Starbucks operation to complain about the corporation's attempts to redefine marriage for all of society. The group will also launch an advertising campaign to inform consumers around the world about the company's activities. Starbucks operates in 55 countries including many where same-sex marriage is strongly opposed.

"We are today announcing a sustained public campaign calling on Starbucks to stop waging war against marriage, and the views of more than half its worldwide customers. Starbucks should be in the business of offering all its diverse customers a great cup of coffee, not taking sides against the views of its customers, vendors, and employees around the world," said Brown.

NOM will place ads throughout the United States, as well as in the Middle East and Southeast Asia, urging consumers to "Dump Starbucks" because purchasing a cup of Starbucks equals support for gay marriage. The "Dump Starbucks" campaign will ask consumers to join the campaign against Starbuck's corporate irresponsibility.

"Starbucks may have been hoping that what happens in Seattle stays in Seattle, but we are going to make sure Starbucks customers, not only here but worldwide, know that drinking a cup of Starbucks coffee promotes gay marriage," said Jonathan Baker, head of NOM's Corporate Fairness Project and a Starbucks stockholder. "It's ironic that even as Starbucks endorsed gay marriage here, its website on involvement in the Middle East claims the corporation does not, 'support any political or religious cause.' Lying to your customers is never a good business model," Baker added.

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To schedule an interview with Brian Brown, President of the National Organization for Marriage, please contact Elizabeth Ray (x130), [email protected], or Anath Hartmann, [email protected], at 703-683-5004.

Paid for by The National Organization for Marriage, Brian Brown, president. 2029 K Street NW, Suite 300 Washington, DC 20006, not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. New § 68A.405(1)(f) & (h).

98 Comments

  1. Paul
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    I smell a tantrum.

  2. Shane Mahaffy
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    "Unlike our opponents, we do not target whole companies for the actions of an individual business executive in that company," said Brian Brown, NOM's president. "But Starbucks has taken a corporate position in support of redefining marriage for all of society. Really? What about TARGET stores or Chick-Fil-A who funnelled lots of $$ into Prop 8 in California? I guess NOM only likes corporations that support them

  3. David
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Congratulations Starbucks! I drink about two cups a day but I think I'll be buying more now.

  4. al
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Does that include chick-fil-a?

  5. Kaye
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    @ Shane - when the opposition is boycotting someone, then it becomes economic warfare and blacklisting.

  6. Barry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if Brian Brown uses a Mac or a PC. I'd really like to know.

  7. Barb Chamberlan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    As I've mentioned I dumped Starbucks over a year ago. Now I've signed the petition and officially dumped them.

  8. alguien
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    hope you guys enjoy your major loss today.

    sorry brian-this one's ours!

  9. John Hardy
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Microsoft, Google, and Apple all support same-sex marriage as well. Perhaps NOM should start a campaign to boycott all of them too? Except you'd have to do it without a computer.

    Also, how come there's no coverage of the NH same-sex marriage vote on here? Maybe because even in a House where 74% of the members are Republican, the attempted same-sex marriage repeal went down in flames? It wasn't even close, NOM.

  10. Paul
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    How are things in New Hampshire?

  11. James A. Tuttle
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    I expect a post on this blog about the FAILURE to repeal marriage equality in new Hampshire. I suspect I will be waiting quite a while.

  12. Chris
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    "but we are going to make sure Starbucks customers, not only here but worldwide, know that drinking a cup of Starbucks coffee promotes gay marriage"

    You fail to realize that the rest of the world isn't nearly as socially backwards as your "pro-marriage" organization is.

  13. Jillian
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Wonderful! Now I know where to buy my coffee!

    Starbucks it shall be! :-))))

  14. Stefan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Wow Barb, that's just awesome of you. Should make a huge difference. Day after day, NOM proves itself to be one of the most toxic organizations in existence.

  15. Paul McMichael
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    NOM needs to choose its battles carefully. Starbucks? Seriously?

    NOM decides to take affect the sales of one of the most successful global brands?

    Good luck with that one.

    can we all re-convene when the campaign is quietly dropped down the road?

  16. Roberto
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    I love how well NOM represents the hateful side of religion. That will help speed the decline of organized religion.

  17. Tyler
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Dump Starbucks? You DO remember way back last month when a similarly-minded bigoted organization tried to boycott another beloved pop culture icon - Ellen? - and it blew up in their face, resulting in more publicity and love for both Ellen and the JC Penney brand. Good strategy. You hire the same PR guys or what?

  18. Alastair
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    I rather more detest how organisations such as NOM persist in speaking for the alleged "majority of Americans" when current polls show otherwise. Lying through your teeth in order to drum up support makes your already reprehensible agenda of suppressing freedom all the more unpleasant in the minds of those who are capable of seeing beyond your propaganda.

    We will always welcome the freedom of gay people - irrespective of our own opinions of homosexuality - to marry. It is a fundamental right of any consenting adult. Now, while I find Starbucks coffee unrefined in flavour, I may just be compelled to buy a cup in order to show my support!

  19. jeff
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Go ahead boycott starbucks, did you ever go there anyway?

  20. BillTheCat
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    This will be about as successful as OMM's crusade against JC Penny. Good luck with that, no one will care.

  21. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Good Job NOM, this will work... I have been waiting for something like this to happen... excellent petition strategy, but most important is to stick with it through any road bumps...I guaranteed you, we will be successful with this petition, with more to come to abolish SSM. The other side don't want a compromise, they want a fight, the sleepy giant has awaken... War may be need before peace can be restored, I credit myself as the author.

  22. H. Ramsey
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    I am a Christian who opposes having the definition of marriage redefined whole heartedly. I, along with many of my friends, will no longer buy from Starbucks. They have joined Home Depot in my mind as being determined to impose unhealthy life styles on our families. Everyone has the right to their own opinions on this. I only hope that they can all be tolerated. I don't believe it's hateful at all to want all to have healthy relationships the way God intended them to be, that just happens to be one man and one woman. It's how everything "works" if you catch my drift:)

  23. Louis E.
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Roberto,I am not religious,and there is nothing hateful about treating those afflicted by homosexual attraction as being able to overcome it rather than as its helpless slaves.

  24. K in VA
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    I'm always happy to see NOM unhappy, 'cause that means something good is happening in America!

  25. sylvatica
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Love the smack down of NOM by the CEO of Starbucks.

  26. ResistSSA
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    I have two daughters who love to go to Starbucks. Guess what? No more Starbucks, and they'll each receive an education on the power of the consumer and how marriage is being attacked by homosexual radicals in this country.

    We have plenty of other coffee-drink options around here; looking forward to supporting some of the local merchants; another good lesson for my kids!

  27. Me-a human who you do not speak for
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    starbucks appears to me to have a human position unlike nom. I agree with roberto-all nom is doing is spreading hate.

  28. Lisa
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Resist, how exactly are those damn homos attacking your marriage or the marriage of anyone? Do they kidnap and fantabulize hetero men? Is this a problem in your community? I can just see the militant gays thumping their Kathy Griffin DVDs, insisting that you hide your disgusting heterosexual displays of affection because you are destroying the foundation of decency. You poor thing.

    How wonderful of you to pass on your stupid bigotry. Hate people because they're gay, kids. Great lesson!

  29. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    NOM, I will be posting fliers in my local area about the petition... Once again, good job, I will do all I can on my end to help make this petition a success.

  30. Greogry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Resist: I am sure that Starbucks will have a global crisis because of your daughters. What O/S do they have on their computers?

  31. Greogry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    The CEO of Starbucks was not the big story. Rather, it was the overwhelming support and approval by the audience - Starbucks shareholders.

  32. Sylvia Copeland
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    I think we can all agree that you are exercising your Constitutional right to Free Speech. Good for you. This organization is a sterling example of hypocrisy. You are using your Constitutional rights to deprive those same rights from others. NOM may be an American institution, but you are decidedly UN-American This is not just your country, and no matter how hard you try to transform it into a republic that only supports people who live and believe like you, it will not happen. As a person of faith, I am appalled by your self-righteousness. You have no shame.

  33. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    SM, we may or may not be able to boycott those business you mention in your post for their support for SSM, but have you heard of the domino effect...? If one falls the rest will follow. The wonderful thing about a free market system, other business will see this a an opening to compete with Starbucks. If NOM had the money and the means, they could open their own coffee business target Starbucks customer and make a fortune right now...
    Another business loss is another business gain...
    This is why businesses no matter what side they are on, should stay out of politics. However, you never go wrong when you swing with the majority.

  34. Ken
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    We will not tolerate anti-civil rights special interest groups (NOM) attempting to force their misguided values on citizens.

  35. Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Once again, corporate greed over rides morality and common sense. They would support animal cruelty if they thought it would sell more coffee. So sad.

  36. Skooter McGoo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Boycott all you want gay hating Christians, I have more than enough of your brothers & sisters that will fill my store as many other stores nation wide every Sunday morning just after/before church. Marriage licenses are issued by the state, not the church. No religion is necessary for a marriage to be legal, valid or recognized. If religion is needed to validate a marriage, please tell me of which faith the couple that are getting married this minute at a drive thru wedding chapel in Las Vegas are practicing?

  37. Greogry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    So all you folks are also going to learn linux?

  38. Joe
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    I never liked Starbucks all that much but after reading this announcement I'm going to go buy a cup. Can I get anybody anything?

  39. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    I encourage NOM to get the word out quickly to other countries, as a business major, I've seen their business portfolio, their strengths and weakness in the markets ,here in the US and abroad.

  40. Mitch
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Microsoft supports marriage equality. Apple supports marriage equality. Google supports marriage equality.

    By the nature of statement, NOM and all NOM supporters need to boycott all these products.

    Stop using your Mac, Stop using your PC. Stop using Google.

  41. amazed
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    It is sheer folly to think that a boycott of Starbucks will have any impact at all on the company's business. Groups like NOM like to make it sound like the whole world is on their side. However, it is not. This will be like dropping a penny from a handfull of change. So what? Let it go. It makes no difference.

  42. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Joe,

    Go right ahead, they'll be needing more like you pretty soon...take your 2% of the population with you.

  43. Jeff
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    I think I'll not only go back to buying my morning coffee at Starbucks, but I'll also start buying Starbucks beans to use at home after reading this. Nice to see a corporation stand up for what is right and moral for a change. Starbucks can thank NOM for bringing me back as a customer. I would not have known about this if not for this article.

  44. Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Well, I can guarantee you it will make *some* difference.

    I will never spend a penny at SBUX again, and I will encourage all of my fellows to do the same.

    Win, lose, or draw, is of merely secondary importance.

    What is important, is that neither I, nor any of those who agree with me, contribute another penny to this arrogant corporate elitist activism devoted to destroying marriage and depriving children of the law's protection of their right to be raised by their own mother and father.

  45. Charlie
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    Hey Maggie, you hateful shrew, thanks for giving me a reason to drink more Starbucks coffee. I'll be thinking of you when I order my next grande iced Americano!

  46. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    amazed,
    You don't know much about business do you? Do you realize if this petition is successful and I predict it can be if NOM does it right, it could ultimately put Starbuck out of business. It would most certainly impact its position in the coffee market. If you know a little about marketing and why Starbucks has been so successful, if you guess it was due to the quality of their coffee, guess again...

  47. YeahRight
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    NOM is getting more desperate by the minute. If Starbucks was anti-gay, you all would be crowding into its stores like it was Sunday church.

    Do yourselves a favor... drink some coffee and wake up. It's 2012.

    Let's talk about how NOM breaks the law and let's talk about NOM's tax troubles. Lets talk about how supporters of NOM are spouting hate on Facebook.

  48. RCW
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Re Post #26 from Rick DeLano: Wow, you think Starbucks engages in "arrogant corporate elitist activism devoted to destroying marriage and depriving children of the las'w protection of their right to be raised by their own mother and father." You must be truly stupid.
    1. Most of the people at Starbucks are married to people of the opposite sex, just like the rest of the world. Do you really think these married people are "devoted to destroying" their own marriages? I doubt it; I think they just see things differently than you.
    2. Hate to tell you this, but no child in America has the "right" to be raised by "his own mother and father." Just ask any adopted kid, or any kid whose parents divorced, or any orphan, or any child who was the result of artificial insemination. And you know what? I have never heard a child who was raised by same-sex parents raise a complaint about it. Kids tend to love their parents regardless of gender.

  49. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Ash, the boycott is not of desperation by the NOM organization, this boycott is what the people have been waiting for, people will start to realize this once the word its out... I know I have, NOM speaks for a lot of people, we are instinct, we our one. Join us or step aside and do nothing but complain...

  50. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    RCW, your post is meaningless...Go to church, and school and learn something.

  51. Thomas Reimler
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Will Starbucks miss my money? No. Will they miss all of our money if this campaign grows? Maybe, but it's more personal than that. To continue to support Starbucks, knowing what I know, would be immoral. Christians need to do the right thing and honor God, regardless of whether or not it impacts the culture.

  52. Barb Chamberlan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    The opposition believes children have no rights. Many of us disagree. The assertion that children raised by same-sex guardians have no complaints is truly stupid.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/0/the_spermdonor_kids_are_not_really_all_right.html

    http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/the_pain_of_anonymous_parentage/

    http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/who_did_i_come_from_the_children_of_donor_dads_grow_up/

  53. chris hogan
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    I'm glad you brought this to my attention, NOM. I'm feeling a little sleepy. I'll think I'll buy a cup of Latte Mocha! I assure you, the people who frequent Star Bucks tend to be more educated, and young. That's TWO strikes against your campaign.

  54. Kathleen
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Poor NOMers. Starbucks has to choose between sticking to their values of equality, fairness and diversity ... or caving to rightwing fundamentalists pushing a prejudice agenda. Like Schwartz said, not a hard call.
    Besides, hillbilly hate groups are not exactly the key demographic for Starbucks. Dodge pickups and disposable diapers are more your style.

  55. eric
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    I am a conservative Christian who thinks this protest is stupid. It strikes me as highly hypocritical to attack one company for it's stance and not hold other companies to the same standard because it would be inconvenient. If you are going to do this to Starbucks, then you ought to include Microsoft and Apple, but you won't because you wouldn't be able to use the technology you are so dependent on. How would you get your message out then?

  56. Katherine Harms
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    NOM is making a huge point here. Starbucks has made a corporate policy that it did not need to make. It could have left this issue to individuals. I am appalled that a company would make such a statement. I would not want to work for a company with an attitude like this, let alone buy coffee from them. I usually avoid involving myself in boycotts and petitions, but I make an exception for this outrage. People who choose the homosexual lifestlye are free to do so, but they are not free to redefine marriage. Don't try to tell me they are victims of genetics; any homosexual gene or gene combo would have disappeared long ago for lack of progeny. They choose. They are free to choose. They are not free to call a homosexual union a marriage.

  57. Robert
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    @ Barb: No Starbucks? Wherever will you find the energy to post anti-gay comments 24/7?

  58. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Robert,
    if you are looking for pro-gay comments NOM supporters, stop wasting your time here, it will never happen.

    Meanwhile, Barb always call it like to see it, I'm glad to have you on our side...

  59. Reformed
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Is there a starbucks finder app?

  60. Max
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    You guys, I know you mean well, but this is a losing battle, and you'll find yourselves not only on the wrong side of history, but on the wrong side of regret. You can oppose homosexuality all you like, and you can disapprove of gays' behaviors or "choices", but there is nothing in it for you or anyone else for wishing that Adam and Steve -- who already live together, do gay things and have whatever level of commitment to one another -- get to call each other "husband".

    I know it's hard to change your perspective once you've dug in your heels to such a degree that you raise money, produce websites and shout at street corners to back up your ideals, but there is so much to be said for humility and the capacity to un-dig one's heels, consider the futility of your argument, and re-apply yourself to causes that actually have an impact, moral or not, on people's lives. Hate gays all you want (or "hate the sin" if that's what blows your skit up) and frown on your neighbors for doing things you think are gross or immoral, but this particular battle just makes you all look bad. It's best for all of us if Adam and Steve are married. There is data to back this up. You might argue that they shouldn't be together to begin with, but that's a different argument.

    If you don't like gays, devote yourself to a different cause, because this is just embarrassing. I suspect that you're here behind this current push against marriage equality because it appears to be the only large-scale, popular forum in which you can express your dislike for this thing you find immoral, but I assure you that you don't need a political "cause" in order to stand firm in your beliefs or to best articulate your identity.

    We know that homosexuality is distasteful to you, and that you find something about it to be morally reprehensible. But gay stuff is going to continue to happen just as frequently and in just as widespread a fashion whether or not guys get to call each other "life partner" or "husband". Give it a rest. You should know that you're actually HURTING your cause (being against homosexuality) by opposing marriage. In the grand scheme of things, tying your horse to this silly argument only makes those who feel that homosexuality is immoral look like petty, archaic bigots with far too much time on their hands.

    If it helps, try taking a few seconds to imagine a world where anyone can marry the person they love. You can STILL OPPOSE HOMOSEXUALITY! You can still try your best to save the souls of those you view as sinners. You might even find a cause that you believe reduces the incidence of homosexuality or sways others to your way of thinking. This is not one of them.

    I promise you that there will be other ways for you to express yourself on this. This is not the end of the road for your convictions. See if you can unearth that inner christian in you and move forward while letting others do what they will, even if you think their "marriage" is just a sham -- just a silly fantasy that they act out in order to "play house" or to feel "normal". You and your code of ethics will still exist, and you'll continue to have ways to advance your world view. That this way of life offends your sensibility is duly noted, but this is the time for you to exercise your ability to back up, laugh at yourself a little, and accept that this battle is not yours, that Maggie doesn't speak for you, and that your efforts are better spent on matters of more substance and consequence. You're worth it, and life is too short for this silliness. You'll be fine.

  61. Tom
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    I now love Starbucks even more!! Gift cards for everyone.

  62. JP
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Why do large companies feel the need to support the perversion of the holy institution of marriage, something that breaks families down (and society for that matter), confuses children about sexuality, and is proven to decrease life spans??? Homosexuality has always signaled the end of a civilization. I hope that this cancer will be erased from America soon so she can become the great country she once was. How a tiny minority of the population can get so much support for their deviancy is beyond me.

  63. Shane Mahaffy
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Disneyland, JC Penny's, "Modern Family" boycotts...none of these boycotts work. They change nothing. Most Starbuck customers are urban, downtown office workers and professionals who are sophisticated, educated, tolerant. They are not at home reading their bibles, home schooling their kids and hysterical about that nice gay couple who just moved in across the street. NOM must be getting desperate

  64. Susie Bright
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    "Homosexuality has always signaled the end of a civilization"

    Wow homosexuality can end a civilization? They must be extremely powerful. Can they start wars also? If they are so powerful it's no wonder NOM is so against them!

    I am amazed, I didn't know gay people could end entire civilizations. Is that what happened to the Roman Empire? Did gay people build the pyramids? Seems they are so much more powerful that any of us thought.

  65. Greogry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    One of the blogs that I follow explains this better than I ever could http://bit.ly/GMebzb

  66. Publius
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Dear liberals,

    Check out
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L58EKo9XYiE
    and
    http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/04/are-starbucks-and-whole-foods-union-busting

    "In 2004, faced with the first serious effort in decades to unionize one of its stores, Starbucks launched what a former worker calls “a scorched-earth campaign” against pro-union employees. The effort resulted in more than a dozen violations of the National Labor Relations Act, a judge found in an 88-page ruling last year. “The union busting has just been absolutely relentless,” says the worker, Daniel Gross, who set out to organize the company’s store on the east side of midtown Manhattan before Starbucks fired him in 2006."

  67. Greogry
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    @Shane Mahaffy

    And their biggest fear about the two gay guys down the street who became friends is that, if they marry, they will register at places that are too pricey.

  68. Max
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Leo,

    The funny thing is that there are many more than 2% of the population who have no problem with the shifting nature of words. Even many who have a distaste for homosexuality see this shrill cause as something not worthy of their interest.

  69. Ash
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    A troll is posting under my screen-name again, Resist. You should know that I, the real Ash, did not write comment #20.

  70. Tom c
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    Good luck with that NOM! LOL!

  71. Leo
    Posted March 21, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Hi Ash, I knew there was something weird about post #20

  72. John N.
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    Great point Publius: Just more double standards from the liberals. Just like when they support Islam but look in the name of diversity but look the other way when they oppress homosexuals.

  73. ResistSSA
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    Ash -

    I knew it wasn't you.

    To the person using your monicker: my kids respect me. They will go to the other coffee shops because I advise them to (not to mention the fact that I pretty much drive them everywhere). Starbucks is for chumps anyway.

  74. Thunderboltfan
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 3:43 am | Permalink

    No homophobic bigots at Starbucks? It's a good thing.

  75. Scrounger
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 6:58 am | Permalink

    Doesn't Pastor Scott Lively own a coffee shop?

  76. Randy E King
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    Chick-fil-A is a privately owned and family run company; whereas Starbucks is a publicly traded corporation.

    It appears that marriage corruption supporters inability to recognize life’s subtle differences extends well beyond their understanding of basic human biology = i.e natural science

  77. RuPaul
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    JP sed: "I hope that this cancer will be erased from America soon so she can become the great country she once was. "

    HEAR! HEAR!
    Oh... I thought you were talking about christianity... My Bad....

  78. Lindoro Almaviva
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    I guess i will be drinking more starbucks in the near future. Not a huge sacrifize because I love their shaken iced tea lemonate with a shot of their rapsberry sweetner.

    I'll make it a trenta and toast you guys, how about that?

  79. WinsonKC
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    I usually avoid Starbucks in favor of a locally owned establishment. But today, I'll stop by and support their business because they follow the teachings of Jesus. And way more than NOM does, by the way.

    Mark 12:31 "And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these."
    Sounds like the Starbucks way to me!

    Anyone who thinks that the bible teaches against homosexuality for those born that way is an ignorant fool!

  80. billee
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    I'm an ex-gay, now happily married man with children. I can attest of God's healing and love through compassionate Christian friends. I support organizations that help to protect traditional marriage for many reasons , one of which is for the sake of children growing up healthy and well adjusted. I will avoid Starbucks here in Asia and ask friends to meet me for business at one of the many other fine coffee vendors in my city. It matters not to me the overall effect of the campaign, it's the right thing to do.

  81. Alison Pryde-Fields
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    " Its executive vice president of partner resources has stated that gay marriage "is aligned with Starbucks business practices and upholds our belief in the equal treatment of partners."

    Is this basically an admission that NOM DOESN'T favour equality?

    ". "It's ironic that even as Starbucks endorsed gay marriage here, its website on involvement in the Middle East claims the corporation does not, 'support any political or religious cause.' "

    And if they did? What would you accuse them of then? Terrorism?

    I have sent an e-mail containint questions asking Brian Brown to defend his page's unsavoury reputation as highlighted in many blogs. I do not expect him to comply. So long as he's making money out of this, he doesn't really seem to care...

  82. Ashley
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    "We will not tolerate an international company attempting to force its misguided values on citizens. "

    Are you sure? I though forcing your values on citizens was what you guys were all about.

  83. susan hartline
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Really? the "majority" of Americans oppose changing the definition of marriage? and where are the statistics to back up that particular claim? in my rural area, I asked everyone i could find what they thought and only ONE person (a local southern Baptist preacher) had any opinion at all! get a grip people! Even though I can't stand the taste of Starbuck's coffee, guess what? I will now be frequenting the place and making purchases in support!

  84. Jezzy
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Either corporations are "people" or they're not. If you say they can't have an investment in politics, then yeah, you gotta start boycotting the companies who SHARE your opinion as well.

    If they are free to have a political stance, then you have to repeal your statements on how that's inappropriate and just admit that you disagree with that stance.

    If it's truly about taking the stance that alienates 50% of their customers (doubt that's the case, we're running out of bigots by the year), then deduction tells me that going against gay marriage would alienate the other 50% of their customers. Well forgive them for doing something with integrity even if it hurts business.

    Granted I think it may be less to do with the company's integrity and more to do with the overwhelming turn of opinion as the masses become actually educated in gay rights, but if it's a 50/50 scenario as you say, then not saying anything would be best for business, in theory.

    Really flimsy logic, guys. Even for NOM. No wait! It's about right.

  85. MacBastard
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    This boycott will cost Starbucks literally DOZENS of dollars!

    Stay classy, bigots!

  86. TC Matthews
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Calling names is just so much easier than having rational thought, ey McB?

  87. John Silvernale
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    @ Katherine Harms (post #32): Homosexuality is NOT A CHOICE! But religious beleif is. Stop saying it's a choice!

  88. John Silvernale
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Joe (post #21): Could you grab me a venti chai latte, please? And a blueberry muffin! And I always tip a dollar. Those people make minimum wage, so they live on tips.

  89. Posted March 22, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Max said, "You guys, I know you mean well, but this is a losing battle, and you'll find yourselves not only on the wrong side of history, but on the wrong side of regret."

    Couldn't help but contrast your message of gloom with this statement, and the makers of it:

    "WE WARN that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

    WE CALL UPON responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society."

    Stand and be counted, and know your choice will be called to account.

  90. Matt Chester
    Posted March 22, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Hooray for Starbucks!! You bigots are on the wrong side of history. All your money and hate could not repeal marriage equality in New Hampshire. I raise my cup of Starbucks in salute to the great granite state!

  91. Tony
    Posted March 23, 2012 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    This is adorable. I can't even be mad at these idiotic bigots. It's just too pathetic.

  92. dare2bechristian
    Posted March 23, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    As Christians, we should always stand up for what is right in the eyes of God. We're not to be concerned with whether our stand is popular. I find it interesting that the naysayers take the time to follow NOM and other organizations that stand on the Word of God and make negative comments. If you honestly thought we could make no difference taking a stand, you wouldn't bother taking the time to follow what we do. TAKE A STAND, FELLOW CHRISTIANS. IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND WE ARE NOT AS MUCH IN THE MINORITY AS THE MEDIA AND NAYSAYERS WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE!! Even if we are in the minority, we are interested in pleasing God, not man.

  93. Karen Zimmerman
    Posted March 26, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Religion is fortunately on the way out. Reading through these comments should prove how badly a world with no religion is needed. Look at yourselves! You call yourselves Gods people? These are the same thoughts and justifications that kept African Americans in chains. Yeah, your kind justified that with the Bible too. Gods will. You would not know what that meant if this god of yours appeared and told you himself today.

  94. TC Matthews
    Posted March 26, 2012 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    Karen, it's no secret that the LGBT position is fundamentally against freedom of religion. Thanks for confirming that.

  95. Mike Butler
    Posted March 26, 2012 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    TC Matthews claims the "LGBT position fundamentally is against freedom of religion." That's a laugh. My Episcopal church and over 200 other California churches and synagogues were ordered to cease legal marriages for same-sex couples in our own congregations by Prop 8 in 2008.
    Now the same religious extremists who bought that proposition are at work in Washington. Perhaps they will next plan on telling us who we can and can't baptize.

  96. TC Matthews
    Posted March 27, 2012 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Mike, freedom of religion is the freedom to act and believe in accordance with your philosophy. The gay philosophy is as much a religion as any other-- I am not surprised to see it merging and morphing with other philosophies. Just because you have a philosophy though, that doesn't mean you can change law to suit your philosophy. Everyone is entitled to present their beliefs in the public arena, as was done in California during proposition 22 and 8. The people look at the various laws and reasons and choose. If you don't win at the ballot box, perhaps it is because the people do not find your particular philosophy compelling outside your particular sphere.

    Just because you belong to a church doesn't mean you automatically get what you want passed, just like it doesn't mean you are automatically banned from the arena of ideas. All are welcome, all may participate and I believe the process is strengthened by the discussion.

  97. Mike Butler
    Posted March 27, 2012 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    dare2bechristian says: "Even if we are in the minority, we are interested in pleasing God, not man."
    -- Except that they were in Arabic, I suspect those were very close to Mohammed Atta's last words, just before impact.
    The God I know and the Jesus I love never said a word about forcing their morality upon others.
    Frankly, dare2bechristian, if your beliefs had any value, I suspect you could convince others to follow them by your example. And yet you choose to use the law to compel your neighbors to obey. Doesn't say much for your faith, IMHO.

  98. Mike Butler
    Posted March 27, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Who voted on your marriage, TC?
    For that matter, what important civil right in this country was ever implimented by popular referendum?

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