LifeSiteNews on the rediscovery of the importance of marriage in Hungary:
The new Constitution, strongly supported by voters, declares that human life must be protected from conception and says that marriage can only be contracted between a man and a woman. This has infuriated European Union secularists who are issuing threats to try to force a change back to the EU’s standards.
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CONSTITUTION / BASIC LAW OF HUNGARY
(25, April 2011.) (draft)
M. Article
(1) Hungary protects the institution of marriage between man and woman, a matrimonial relationship voluntarily established, as well as the family as the basis for the survival of the nation.
The new constitution went in to effect the beginning of this year.
Good to see that some are taking this fight seriously.
Question. How could we translate the Hungarian word “hazasodik” into English? We can't!
If this movement is going to steal the word 'marriage' from us, (that which they are doing), than we have to come up with another one if we don't want to impoverish our language, our minds and those of our children. If we don't have one clear word than 'marriage' will not exist anymore. 'Traditional marriage' will simply just become some awkward explanation of a personal idea.
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said that the lack of respect for human life is a relic of the Communist regime, which hold people and life in contempt.
It's great to see the people of Hungary breaking away from the mind control of the failed EU nanny state and beginning to think for themselves.
Ok you can have Hungary, we'll take the UK
Interesting point of fact regarding the UK; the list of assets held by the Royal family of the UK includes a reference to the seabed-floor surrounding the UK.
This is relevant because of the statement of fact issued durring the most recent Royal's wedding that the Royal's recognize the institution of marriage is a construct of God designed to unite man and woman as one - a state of holy matrimony.
So the fact the new constitution effectively bans free media and abolishes freedom of religion doesn't bother NOM, so long as the gays know their place?
Telling.
Everyone ought to be able to freely decide the rules and laws under which they will live. Even if we don't agree with it.
The fact that the only a man and a woman can create a baby deserves special attention in a society. It is important because the population needs to be replenished, and it is important that those children who are created have the best chance for becoming good citizens that contribute to, as opposed to becoming burdens on, society.
Couples that implicitly cannot procreate are different from those that can. While they might serve some sort of purpose in society, one purpose that they never serve is to create babies.
Much of human behavior is learned through imitation. Men marry women because other men marry other women; this is an important point, because society wants to encourage potentially procreating male-female couples to get married so that the children have a mom and dad.
Thus, while there are some male-female couples that are non-procreating, they nonetheless encourage other potentially procreating male-female couples, through imitation, to get married.
Contrast this with same-sex couples who can never procreate: they sever the link between procreation and marriage. They discourage marriage for those who would otherwise get married for procreative purposes and/or they encourage men to marry men or women to marry women. Same-sex "marriages" destroy marriage as an institution for procreation and discourage marriages between men and women.
The Hungarians have figured this out; good for them.
It's good to see that marriage and family are not being attacked in all places. I wish it were not so difficult to have strong families here.
Good for them. Every country has a right to their soveriegnty and Hungary is no exception.
MrRoivas #5
Blah blah.
Telling.
Whoa, half of my last comment disappeared.
MrRoivas
Red herring.
Amy - Why do you feel it is not possible to have strong families in the USA? I certainly don't think that is the case.
Response to #5
America used to truly inspire other countries.
In the future our children will have to look more often than not elswhere to fine their inspiration, and their hope in man.
And the media is not going to help them.
"The State will cooperate with churches in the pursuit of community objectives" - beautiful. And to an American child it sounds only like a dream.
VI. Article
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right includes
freedom to choose and to change religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with
others and in public or in private, to manifest or choose not to manifest religion or belief, in
worship, teaching, practice and observance.
(2) In Hungary the churches and the State operate separately. Churches are independent in Hungary.
The State will cooperate with churches in the pursuit of community objectives.
VIII. Article
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of expression.
(2) Hungary recognizes and protects the freedom of the media.
@ResistSSA "Contrast this with same-sex couples who can never procreate" this statement is false, as same sex couples can procreate children just as infertile opposite sex couples do.
I repeat there is nothing wrong with secularism. Though the origin of the word may refer to 'separate from religion', in a democratic society everyone (except perhaps a mental -retard-) has a form of religion of philosophy and a derives set of values. In fact, many Christians don't belong to a formal church organization. In the USA democracy, contrasting to a government with a State religion (as in UK), all religions are welcomed to contribute and vote in legislation according to their value system.
MrRoivas: trying to change the subject?
Sorry Skooter, some infertile opposite sex couples just need a little help with the plumbing to procreate with one another. All same-sex couples are incapable of procreating without a third party becoming involved. It just doesn't happen, and I think that's what angers same-sex couples the most. But that's really the point: if you want to be part of a couple that makes babies, form an opposite sex couple.
Actually, since in the USA we cannot experiment directly on/with humans, it limits scientific progress. (The goal doesn't really justify the means).
We cannot clone human beings, except human cells and organs (potentially). I am not suggesting experimentation on humans (like Hitler did), like on cloned children. I am saying that because we cannot experiment on humans directly, we have to let same-sex civil marriage be allowed in some States so we can use those States as mild, legal, experiments on children.
The amount of pain and confusion created in real people is just part of the experiment.
In the same way, our traffic laws (sometimes defined by corrupt legislators) experiment and it is the main source of premature death (specially when tied to excessive alcoholic swallowing - which people mildly refer to as 'drinking').
If we don't reason and make fact-based, logical, predictions, then we are indeed experimenting wildly with human life, and lives.
Hungary knows that no one else is likely to produce new Hungarians if they don't.
Regulation of procreation is in the government's best interest.
Same-sex couples are friendships, and always sterile (as a couple). That's the bottom line.
In Hawaii, we still have the official Reciprocal Beneficiary Relationships coded in law. And that provides rights to domestic partnerships such as that of an aunt and her adult niece, if they need to live together for financial reasons. It met a great barrier, when the Attorney General, here, decided he couldn't pass on the insurance costs to the insurance companies. The same-sex civil unions law will meet the same barrier. Either everyone's insurance premiums will increase, or same-sex couples won't get covered. It's basic accounting math (not Calculus).
Hope everyone had the opportunity to read the whole article in Life Site News. Just have to admire how the former Communist countries get it. The EU is in effect trying to blackmail them into reversing course. This should be a warning to all countries that allow a foreign entitiy to control the money supply.
The same article addressed how in Russia they are fighting back against the homsexual agenda in St. Petersburg, it is worth reading.
Lol same-sex friendships. You might want to join the 21st Century at SOME point, little man..
What a punch of uneducated, bigot idiots are NOM!
In Hungary a right-wing extremist who has ruined his country finally, oust foreign money and now needs the money from the EU to not bankrupt, who build a big, controlling government and broke enough treaties within the EU is a ideal for you. IDIOTS.
Apollonia,
You really should proof read your submittals prior to...
Yikes!
Good for Hungary.
I also like how that Russian official said that prohibiting the promotion of homosexuality and transgenderism to children is not a matter of "civil rights" or liberty.
Another great piece of the article from the link....This one is especially for the SSMers, SSSAers gays/lesbians who might be blogging this feed. READ and ACCEPT the TRUTH cause the TRUTH will set you FREE, that's what real "equality' is all about, the truth does not discriminate it is meant for everyone...
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Leading UK homosexualist admits the condition neither genetic nor fixed
Peter Tatchell, one of Britain’s most vocal advocates of the homosexualist political movement, has admitted that sufferers of same-sex attraction are neither “born with” nor stuck with the condition.
Much of the argument upon which the promotion of homosexuality as a “legitimate lifestyle choice” is founded is the paradoxical assertion that it is not a choice at all, but a fixed state of being, probably determined by genes. This is the basis of the claim that opposition to homosexual activity is “homophobia” and tantamount to racism.
Yes Ash. We have been learning to respectfully accept homos for decades and are continuing to do so. But what rightfully woke up the quiet, reasonable and unprejudiced masses is the extreme “promotion” , “encouragement” and “education” of homo activity. And they finally jumped out of their seats when they realized that this promotion was also leading to them losing something which has no direct relationship to homo-unions, but is extremely precious to them - 'marriage'.
When a union where the sex of the other person has “everything” to do with it, is made into a union where the sex of the other person has “nothing” to do with it, the first union simply ceases to exist.
Making a new type of union in the society requires a new word to name it, and a vocabulary to define it. Taking an already existent word and changing the definition is violent and totally unjust to the people who cherish it, and to the realities that define it.
Also this other type of real bodily pleasure being promoted, encouraged and taught as it is, is going to effect and change the behavior and habits of our consumer kids. (We don't need to wait for some highly educated expert and in-depth psychological and sociological ivy league university study to tell us that. Mom and Dad can tell us as much.)
@ 654321,
First try using a name...lol Second, excellent post @ 27...
I really urge those people living the experience of homophilia to understand the so called "gay rights" activits will eventually lead to social unacceptance of same sex intercourse.
Thanks Leo.
A name? But this way you have a way to identify me, plus you have the access code to half of my accounts...
So the Hungarians have given up on being part of modern Europe and people here think that's a good thing. Typical.
Good for Hungary.