Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse of the Ruth Institute testifies to the Washington State Legislature.
"I'm here today to address you who've already made up your minds to redefine marriage. History will not be kind to you. Previous generations of social experimenters have caused unimaginable misery for millions of people. Particular people advocated the policies that led today to the 50% divorce rate, and 40% out of wedlock childbearing rate. And none of these people have ever been held accountable. But I'm here today to hold you to account for the predictable harm that you have already caused and will continue to cause in your effort to redefine marriage."
"And to those of you who vote for man-woman marriage: stay strong. History is on your side."
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She's right.
"No other success can compensate for failure in the home." D.O.M.
And what were the "policies" that led to the 50% divorce rate and the 40% out of wedlock birthrate?
And what do either of those things have to do with SSM?
History will not be kind to NOM and those who fight against civil rights for all citizens.
History is the best teacher.
Am i missing something "dr"? When was voting for mariage equality voting not voting for man woman marriage. If one exists the other cannot? I beleive that if marriage equality exists, straight marriages will be able to continue as usual. Poor "dr".
Dr. Morse's courage and conviction are admirable. She makes so many good points, it's hard to take them all in with just one viewing of the vid. SSM is a reckless social experiment, and children are the guinea pigs.
@Layne
Are you that ignorant to history?
While I disagree with the 50% divorce rate as it has long since been debunked as a myth(the actual rate is somewhere between 20-30%) the rate is as high as it is because the left pushed for the No Fault Divorce legislation which turned marriage from a committed relationship to a boyfriend/girlfriend union that could be severed if one party feels unwilling to make the marriage work.
continued....
No Fault Divorce and the Sexual Revolution of the 1960's and 70's laid the groundwork for the culture wars we are having today.
Okay, Zack. No-fault divorce has been around for 40+ years. What do you want to do? Repeal it in all 50 states?
"No-fault divorce has been around for 40+ years. What do you want to do? Repeal it in all 50 states?"
Absolutely!!! And re-instate the right to sue for alienation of affection, those individuals who commit adultery with a married individual.
I love that school-marmish scolding from the irrelevant "Dr. J". She sure does make marriage look cool, doesn't she? Could someone be a less convincing advocate for marriage?
@Layne
Yes! Of course!
@Daughter of Eve
Exactly!
LOL! Good luck with that, Zack and Eve. I'm sure that will go over well all across the country...
Jon,
history will know that having the reprehensible vice of engaging in same-sex sexual relationships treated as if of no lesser worth than a real opposite-sex marriage is the civil right of no citizen!
Dr. Morse knocks it out of the park!
It is crucial this year to make sure that, in addition to our highly likely victories in MN and NC, that the four Judases in New York are retired, as a very clear message to legislators throughout the country that Dr. Morse is not kidding at all when she speaks of holding those who attempt the redefinition of marriage against the will of the people to account.
I find Dr. Morse both eloquent and convincing, and her rainbow-colored scarf is a great touch.
I would like to see her testimony posted in print form and distributed widely.
You, Ms. Moore, will go down in the dustbin of bigotry.
Dr. Morce made a power speech, I'm so proud of her-she blew me away, she was articulate, precise, and convincing... Thanks NOM for posting the clip.
I'll have to view that clip again...
@Layne
It's hard to take someone seriously when they shout "LOL" in their posts.
There is already plans in quite a few states to repeal such laws.
What states? Republican ones? You know how those Republicans make such committed husbands (Rudy, McCain, Gingrich)!
I'm sure repealing no-fault divorce will go over swimmingly with your right-wing ilk.
And I shouted "LOL" because the idea of reversing no-fault divorce is positively ludicrous. Can you cite a SINGLE poll that shows majority support behind that?
Or is it just people like you and Dr. Morse averting your eyes away from the philandering Gingriches of the world and projecting the 50% divorce rate onto the gays..?
"No-fault divorce has been around for 40+ years. What do you want to do? Repeal it in all 50 states?"
"Absolutely!!! And re-instate the right to sue for alienation of affection, those individuals who commit adultery with a married individual."
Yes! No fault divorce is a big legislative error, leading to the destruction of society, and promoting hate and egotic behaviours. Legislators must repair this error as soon as possible.
Deb,standards of conduct are not "bigotry",and the stereotypical attitude of a bigot toward a target group is the opposite of that expressed by critics of same-sex "marriage".We do not treat homosexuals as helpless slaves of their hormones,the way a bigot thinks members of group X can't help but do horrible thing Y because "those people are all like that".We insist they can learn that same-sex sex is wrong.If we were bigoted against them we'd say they could never learn.
Good post Louis!
"I shouted "LOL" because the idea of reversing no-fault divorce is positively ludicrous. Can you cite a SINGLE poll that shows majority support behind that?"
Oh, I never said it would be a popular thing to do; but then again, the right thing to do is frequently unpopular. Fortunately, I haven't worried about running with the "popular" crowd, since I was a teenager.
Well-said, DoE!
The notion of same sex pseudo-marriage would have elicited howls of LOL just a few short decades ago.
Social engineering is a remarkable thing.
The sword cuts both ways.
Girst we defeat the marriage corruption movement in its same sex pseudo-marriage manifestation.
Then we rebuild marriage.
Ultimately we defeat marriage corruption in its quickie-divorce manifestation.
Brick by brick.
This post is from another article post, feel free to share and re-post...
If you live in WA, boycott this business below or send them a formal letter, educate them about protecting marriage between the sexes. Be committed to doing this for the next six months, and watch us win the marriage fight that State, HANDS DOWN... As to yourself, " enough is enough"...Then go and make things happen and continue supporting NOM whom is willing to the fight to the front lines...
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Mary
Posted January 26, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink
Here's a list of companies to boycott (they are the companies that have come out in support of "marriage equality" in WA):
16 Copenhagen
• A New Chapter
• Adrift Hotel
• Alcoa, Inc.
• American Family Insurance
• Area 58 Fine Art
• Atticus Coffee & Gifts
• Attorney at Law, P.S.
• Barbara Grant Consulting Group
• Big Mario’s Pizza
• Bimbos Cantina
• Bizible
• Blue Moon Burgers
• Boo Radley’s
• BrandQuery LLC
• BrandQuery, LLV
• Business Diversity Counseling Services
• Capitol Florist
• Central Physical Therapy & Fitness, Inc.
• CG Tech Services, Inc.
• Cha Cha Lounge
• Choke Shirt Company and Prints
• Chris Porter Medical
• Clean Air Lawn Care
• Conner Remodeling &Design, INC.
• Connors and Company
• Concur
• Cordova Law Firm
• Cupcake Royale
• Dani Weiss Photography
• DBL Property Maintenance
• DML Insurance Services, Inc.
• Elliot Bay Book Co.
• Freeman LLC
• Fun Fitness
• Fuzed Travel
• Group Health Plan
• Go Green Directory
• Google
• Havana
• Hillside Quickie Restaurants
• Inn at Discovery Coast
• Integrated Financial Group
• James Braden
• Jason Rumohr
• JSW Ventures
• Juju
• Kelly Printing & Graphics
• Kill Rock Stars
• Kings Hardware
• Lagoma Lodge
• Law Office of Allen Draher, PLLC
• LGBTQ Counseling Servicecs
• Liberty Cafe
• Local 360
• Local Grown Cafe
• Local Roots Farm
• Microsoft
• Moe Bar
• Mx2 Computer Consulting
• Nike
• Northmoon Artistic Creations
• Onto Entertainment
• Out There Monthly: The Inland NW Guide to Outdoor Recreation
• Pacific Forest Resources
• Pike Street Fish Fry
• Poquitos
• Portland Area Business Association
• Precision Door Service
• Rain City Entertainment
• Real Networks
• Ric-O-Shay
• Screenplay, Inc.
• Seattle Cigar Expo
• Seattle Gay News
• Seattle Interactive Conference
• Seattle Popcorn Company Inc. DBA Uncle Woddy’s Caramel Corn
• Seattle Restaurant Alliance
• Seattle Tattoo Expo
• Serendipity Catering
• Skylark Cafe & Club
• Spitfire Bar & Grill
• Spokane Wireless Inc.
• Starbucks
• Stoel Rives
• Tango Restaurant
• The 5 Point Café
• The Clark Company
• The Crocodile
• The Red Door
• The Saint
• The Wedding Gentleman
• Thinking Cap Communications & Design
• ThirdPlanet Productions
• Thom’s Hand-Brewed Coffee
• True North, PLLC
• Tula’s Restaurant and Jazz Club
• Tutta Bella Neapolitan Pizzeria
• Unicorn Bar
• Verite Coffee
• Vista Diagnostics International
• Vulcan
• Wed4Less Northwest
• Whidbey Wayfarer Farm
• Wild Sage American Bistro
• Zenith Diversity
• Zim’s Mobile Computer Services LLC
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Mary
Posted January 26, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Permalink
Here are the pro "gay marriage" companies in WA:
16 Copenhagen
• A New Chapter
• Adrift Hotel
• Alcoa, Inc.
• American Family Insurance
• Area 58 Fine Art
• Atticus Coffee & Gifts
• Attorney at Law, P.S.
• Barbara Grant Consulting Group
• Big Mario’s Pizza
• Bimbos Cantina
• Bizible
• Blue Moon Burgers
• Boo Radley’s
• BrandQuery LLC
• BrandQuery, LLV
• Business Diversity Counseling Services
• Capitol Florist
• Central Physical Therapy & Fitness, Inc.
• CG Tech Services, Inc.
• Cha Cha Lounge
• Choke Shirt Company and Prints
• Chris Porter Medical
• Clean Air Lawn Care
• Conner Remodeling &Design, INC.
• Connors and Company
• Concur
• Cordova Law Firm
• Cupcake Royale
• Dani Weiss Photography
• DBL Property Maintenance
• DML Insurance Services, Inc.
• Elliot Bay Book Co.
• Freeman LLC
• Fun Fitness
• Fuzed Travel
• Group Health Plan
• Go Green Directory
• Google
• Havana
• Hillside Quickie Restaurants
• Inn at Discovery Coast
• Integrated Financial Group
• James Braden
• Jason Rumohr
• JSW Ventures
• Juju
• Kelly Printing & Graphics
• Kill Rock Stars
• Kings Hardware
• Lagoma Lodge
• Law Office of Allen Draher, PLLC
• LGBTQ Counseling Servicecs
• Liberty Cafe
• Local 360
• Local Grown Cafe
• Local Roots Farm
• Microsoft
• Moe Bar
• Mx2 Computer Consulting
• Nike
• Northmoon Artistic Creations
• Onto Entertainment
• Out There Monthly: The Inland NW Guide to Outdoor Recreation
• Pacific Forest Resources
• Pike Street Fish Fry
• Poquitos
• Portland Area Business Association
• Precision Door Service
• Rain City Entertainment
• Real Networks
• Ric-O-Shay
• Screenplay, Inc.
• Seattle Cigar Expo
• Seattle Gay News
• Seattle Interactive Conference
• Seattle Popcorn Company Inc. DBA Uncle Woddy’s Caramel Corn
• Seattle Restaurant Alliance
• Seattle Tattoo Expo
• Serendipity Catering
• Skylark Cafe & Club
• Spitfire Bar & Grill
• Spokane Wireless Inc.
• Starbucks
• Stoel Rives
• Tango Restaurant
• The 5 Point Café
• The Clark Company
• The Crocodile
• The Red Door
• The Saint
• The Wedding Gentleman
• Thinking Cap Communications & Design
• ThirdPlanet Productions
• Thom’s Hand-Brewed Coffee
• True North, PLLC
• Tula’s Restaurant and Jazz Club
• Tutta Bella Neapolitan Pizzeria
• Unicorn Bar
• Verite Coffee
• Vista Diagnostics International
• Vulcan
• Wed4Less Northwest
• Whidbey Wayfarer Farm
• Wild Sage American Bistro
• Zenith Diversity
• Zim’s Mobile Computer Services LLC
I love Dr. Morse's distinguishing of real equality from the nonsense (sham equality) that underlies the push to redefine marriage.
Sorry! A revision from my last post @ 28...
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This post is from another article post, feel free to share and re-post...
If you live in WA, boycott these business below or send them a formal letter, educate them about protecting marriage between the sexes. Be committed to doing this for the next six months, and watch us win the marriage fight in that State, HANDS DOWN... Tell yourself, " enough is enough"...Then go and make things happen and continue supporting NOM taking the fight to the front lines...
@Leo
I don't think announcing a boycott of businesses, simply because the owners are openly pro-SSM, would be a good idea. People are entitled to their views.
However, if these businesses' own customers start actively reaching out to them to share our views about marriage, and why we don't want a handful of politicians redefining it, then that's a great idea. The more people who do that, the better.
@ Lefty, and why not boycott those business who are supporting the propaganda that same sex marriage should be legal?
Lefty- last time I check, right is right, wrong is wrong... there is not in between compromise to SSM, or for that matter homosexuality... Do you support SSM or NOT!?! If you are a potential customer to those business but would not be if you knew of their social views, this information is for you and others... Being against SSM but fueling acceptance with your money indirectly is just unfortunate, but knowingly do so and supporting those who are for it, is an oxymoron...We, all of us need to make sure we stay on the right side of the issue-that SSM IS a bad idea-and stop fueling the debate with your hard earn money. "
@ Lefty, and why not boycott those business who are supporting the propaganda that same sex marriage should be legal?
Lefty- last time I checked, right is right, wrong is wrong... there is no in between compromise to SSM, or for that matter homosexuality... Do you support SSM or NOT!?! If you are a potential customer to those businesses listed but would not be if you knew of their social views, this information is for you and others... Being against SSM but fueling acceptance with your money indirectly is just unfortunate, but knowingly doing so and supporting those who are for it, is an oxymoron...We, all of us need to make sure we stay on the right side of the issue-that SSM IS a bad idea-and stop fueling the debate with your hard earn money. "
(( Being against SSM but fueling acceptance with your money indirectly is just unfortunate, but knowingly doing so and supporting those who are for it, is an oxymoron...We, all of us need to make sure we stay on the right side of the issue-that SSM IS a bad idea-and stop fueling the debate with your hard earned money. "))
Mr. Morse's remarks are available in text with footnotes at http://www.ruthblog.org/2012/01/30/prepared-remarks-for-the-washington-state-legislature-hearings-on-the-definition-of-marriage/
@Richard B Cortijo
Redefining marriage as a de-gendered institution does not place SSM quietly along side the old institution. it completely redefines what marriage is and changes it legal construct, destroying or distorting the older concepts of husband and wife, mother and father. Just as "gay" used to mean cheerful and now means something else, the new definition will drive out to old, aided by lawsuits against churches and individuals, and vastly expanding state power at the expense of the natural family with its natural and biological bonds of creation.
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