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Does Gay Rights Include the Right to Have Sex in Public Parks?

 

We are pretty sure most people, including most LGBT people, would say "no."

In Boston, these days, they aren't so sure:

State Police arrested 31 men at the park this past summer, most of them for trespassing, reviving fears in the gay community that the police were once again targeting gay men. The sexual orientation of most of the men is unknown, but their arrests prompted gay-rights advocates to meet recently with high-ranking public safety officials in Governor Deval Patrick’s administration.

... But police officials say the recent work at the Medford park did not target any one group. Their overall goal, they say, was to maintain safety in state-owned parks and protect delicate grounds, which have been damaged by people veering off main paths to use drugs or engage in sex.

Officials at the state Department of Conservation and Recreation said that “men who have sex with men’’ go off main paths at the Middlesex Fells Reservation to have trysts, trampling on natural resources, according to a draft of the department’s resource management plan.

The language rankles advocates, who said it unfairly blames one group of people. DCR officials said they would revise the language in the plan’s final draft. -- The Boston Globe

27 Comments

  1. John
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    What does this have to do with marriage? This is pure animus and meant to be divisive.

  2. TC Matthews
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    This article goes right to the heart of the carefully crafted image vs. reality problem the LGBT have. Sexual addiction is a terrible thing, no matter who has it. The fact that men are seeking out men in this park is only evidence that those who indulge their SSA often fall prey to sexual addiction rather than healthy relationships. These relationships are not the ones society needs to hold up, honor, or emulate.

  3. Daughter of Eve
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    I agree with TC. These are not relationships which lead to stability in society, as does the public union of the sexes (man + woman), nor are they good examples of responsible sexual behavior, such as is the standard in marriage between a man and a woman. It's not enough to talk the talk--people need to walk the walk, and this particular aspect of sexuality is nothing to hold up as a standard of public virtue.

  4. Bob T.
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    TC: It proves no such thing. There are FAR more arrests of people engaging in heterosexual prostitution - do a Google news search and see what you find. Shall we say that this is evidence that people who indulge their O (opposite) SA often fall prey to sexual addiction rather than healthy relationships? You're attempting to conflate anonymous hook ups with marriage. Should we not hold up, honor, or emulate male-female relationships because they often take the form of prostitute-John? Get real, TC.

  5. M. Jones
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Not only the right to have sex any where they want, but to shut down foster care agencies if they think this kind of life style is unhealthy for children placed in their care.

  6. TC Matthews
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    The percentage of "hooking up" done in the gay community is far greater than any other community. Promiscuity is never healthy. I can provide links to LGBT publications claiming that the inclusion of SSM is the end of monogamy in marriage. Can't you? It's not a secret that SSM promotes open relationships and not monogamy-- partly because it is sex addiction driven. This article is about the fruits of those choices. Acting out on your SSA is not healthy. These are only the evidences of that.

  7. ResistSSA
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Ah, yes, anonymous sex in the bushes. Such the marrying types. Let's see those HIV/AIDS figures again and see if we can detect a pattern here....

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/fastfacts-msm-final508comp.pdf

  8. John
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Their imooral lifestyle is what makes this have to do with marriage. It seems Marraige to them is nothing more than flings with added bonuses

  9. Davide
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    In Holland the government turned public parks and children playgrounds into homosexul sex gathering spots. The homos complained they had no safe places for their hook-ups, gang-bangs, and orgies. So at night they are permitted to have freaky circus sex. The next morning park employees pick up the used condoms so kid can't get them.

  10. Bob T.
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Bigotry, ignorance, uninformed rants, blatant lies, denial of reality, circular logic, and bad spelling. It's just another day on NOM Blog.

  11. John
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    NOM, are you still blocking those who oppose your posting of this?

  12. ResistSSA
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Bobt -

    I believe that men engaging in sodomy with one another is harmful (see CDC stats, infra.) and that children should be protected from the knowledge of and teaching that such behavior is normal. That's not bigotry, that's concern for people engaging in and encouraging harmful behavior. I also believe that drug addicts are engaging in harmful behavior, as are alcoholics and smokers and that those behaviors should not be taught as normal to children. Is that bigotry, too?

  13. Daughter of Eve
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Bob T. is right. How many visit the NOM sight in support of redefining marriage, without getting their facts straight, or understanding the real issues? We're lucky we have NOM, to set the record straight.

  14. j. fox
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Marriage promotes commitment and stability, obviously not these kind of relationships.

  15. amcew
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Oh come on NOM! Now this is really reaching and mean-spirited. It totally destroys your "we just want to protect marriage" argument.

  16. Rob
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    All the more reason for gays and lesbians to marry, and form monogamous relationships, like straight people do.

  17. Daughter of Eve
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    I agree with Rob. I would be delighted to support the marriage of a gay man to a lesbian woman. After all, marriage success is about equal commitment and self-lessness, not sexual orientation.

  18. Leo
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Rob, all the more reason why PEOPLE should not participate in same sex sexual activities, and get help for their mental illness that prevents them from braking the life threatening, nasty habit… Anyone find pleasure anal sex where human waste exists, or who uses their mouth to please a duplicate of themselves, is mentally ill, period!

  19. Leo
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Rob, all the more reason why PEOPLE should not participate in same sex sexual activities, and get help for their mental illness that prevents them from braking the life threatening, nasty habit… Anyone who finds pleasure in anal sex where human waste exit, or who uses their mouth to please a duplicate of themselves, is mentally ill, period!

  20. Emily
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    ResistSSA,

    Since female homosexuals have a lower STD/STI rate than HETEROSEXUAL couples, as well as a higher monogamy rate than HETEROSEXUAL couples, is it safe to say that you then support lesbians?

  21. TC Matthews
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Emily, the real question is, should society support lesbians? Should denying children a father by design be encouraged?

  22. Louis E.
    Posted November 15, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Rob,give up trying to find reasons to accept same-sex sexual relationships...there are no valid ones,ever!!

  23. ResistSSA
    Posted November 16, 2011 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    @Emily -

    My biggest issue with homosexuality is the push to indoctrinate children with the message that it is an equal alternative to men-women relationships and the push to change the definition of marriage which will ultimately destroy the institution and all the benefits that it provides to society, especially to children.

    The disease rate in men who choose to participate in sodomy with other men is just evidence of the self-centered mindset of homosexuals; so wrapped up in themselves that they recklessly participate in known dangerous activities to get their jollies.

    I think the women are equally selfish (as evident from their selfish desire to conceive children without a father to raise them), they're just fortunate to not be susceptible to disease because of the type of sexual activities they participate in and/or their lower sex drives relative to men's.

  24. Ash
    Posted November 16, 2011 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    amcew: "Oh come on NOM! Now this is really reaching and mean-spirited. It totally destroys your 'we just want to protect marriage" argument.'"

    I think NOM is emphasizing how ridiculous complaints about "gay rights violations" can get. I'm glad NOM shared the story.

  25. M. Jones
    Posted November 16, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Dr. Morse identifies the risks of same-sex couple adoptions. We should heed the words of this great and courageous woman.

  26. P. Edward Murray
    Posted November 19, 2011 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Sex in a public park? I mean, really, you can't find yourselves in your own apartment or house?

    Know what other kind of folks hang-out like this?

    One worked as a Coach at Penn State..

  27. P. Edward Murray
    Posted November 19, 2011 at 2:57 am | Permalink

    Mean spirited?

    Closing down Catholic Charities is about as mean spirited as you can get!