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		<title>By: Maryland Democrat Burns aligning with NOM, FRC to fight marriage-equality bill &#124; Hold Your Future</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-69505</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryland Democrat Burns aligning with NOM, FRC to fight marriage-equality bill &#124; Hold Your Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] party ranks &#116;&#111; support marriage equality, but on Thursday, NOM President Brian Brown said in a newsletter that same-sex marriage is &#110;&#111;&#116; a partisan issue, using Burns &#097;&#110;&#100; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] party ranks &#116;&#111; support marriage equality, but on Thursday, NOM President Brian Brown said in a newsletter that same-sex marriage is &#110;&#111;&#116; a partisan issue, using Burns &#097;&#110;&#100; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Louis E.</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-68220</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin Fuller,the OBLIGATION to &quot;discriminate against&quot; same-sex sexual relationships is not motivated by &quot;hate&quot; or &quot;bigotry&quot; against those who do it,any more than laws penalizing stealing or drunkenness are driven by &quot;hate&quot; for kleptomaniacs or alcoholics.This is a &quot;friends don&#039;t let friends&quot; situation...it is those who take the thankless task of continuing to tell people what they need to hear instead of what they want to who are the true friends.And anyone of any sexual orientation defending same-sex sexual relationships needs to be told to stop,until they do stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin Fuller,the OBLIGATION to "discriminate against" same-sex sexual relationships is not motivated by "hate" or "bigotry" against those who do it,any more than laws penalizing stealing or drunkenness are driven by "hate" for kleptomaniacs or alcoholics.This is a "friends don't let friends" situation...it is those who take the thankless task of continuing to tell people what they need to hear instead of what they want to who are the true friends.And anyone of any sexual orientation defending same-sex sexual relationships needs to be told to stop,until they do stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Fuller</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-68168</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 17:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[READ MY POST! every knows what your true intentions are you are not protecting traditional marriage you are in fact openly discriminating against GLBT people!the people are aware of that FACT.with all do hope very soon your group will be reconized as aHATE GROUP much like FOCOUS ON THE FAMILEY has been recently. your days of dealing out bigotry and hate in the name of religion are soon coming to its end!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>READ MY POST! every knows what your true intentions are you are not protecting traditional marriage you are in fact openly discriminating against GLBT people!the people are aware of that FACT.with all do hope very soon your group will be reconized as aHATE GROUP much like FOCOUS ON THE FAMILEY has been recently. your days of dealing out bigotry and hate in the name of religion are soon coming to its end!</p>
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		<title>By: Louis E.</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-68163</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What matters is that people learn to reject same-sex sexual behavior,intellectually and in practice.That&#039;s &quot;success&quot;,whether or not &quot;orientation&quot; changes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What matters is that people learn to reject same-sex sexual behavior,intellectually and in practice.That's "success",whether or not "orientation" changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hogan</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-68099</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;successes&quot; in the study didn&#039;t shif from gay to straight; on average, participants shifted by less than a point on the Kinsey scale. Jones himself has said that the succeses are &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt;, as far as most people would see it, typical heterosexuals. A typical heterosexual male is attracted to a range of females; the succeses report being satisfied with their sexual attraction to their wives, but no attraction to other women (and it&#039;s worth noting that Yarhouse has a study of mixed-orientation marriages which shows that the spouses do not tend to share that level of satisfaction). That doesn&#039;t sound straight to me -- it sounds like acting straight. 

We have the means to measure attraction -- MRI scans have been shown to work. Why have none of the success stories come forward to undergo such a scan to prove that they&#039;ve changed orientation rather than modified their behavior?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The "successes" in the study didn't shif from gay to straight; on average, participants shifted by less than a point on the Kinsey scale. Jones himself has said that the succeses are <b>not</b>, as far as most people would see it, typical heterosexuals. A typical heterosexual male is attracted to a range of females; the succeses report being satisfied with their sexual attraction to their wives, but no attraction to other women (and it's worth noting that Yarhouse has a study of mixed-orientation marriages which shows that the spouses do not tend to share that level of satisfaction). That doesn't sound straight to me -- it sounds like acting straight. </p>
<p>We have the means to measure attraction -- MRI scans have been shown to work. Why have none of the success stories come forward to undergo such a scan to prove that they've changed orientation rather than modified their behavior?</p>
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		<title>By: Daughter of Eve</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67861</link>
		<dc:creator>Daughter of Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; you don&#039;t want them to have the same civil right to marriage that you have&quot;

David in Houston will be pleased to know that NOM supports the rights homosexuals ALREADY have to get married to the opposite-sexed person of their choice; the same privilege granted to ALL Americans, regardless of sexual orientation.  Lest David confuses this with homosexual discrimination, he can pause and consider that not all opposite-sexed couples are eligible for marriage, such as siblings, and that not all same-sexed couples are homosexual, nor do all same-sexed couples qualify for a marriage license, even in states with gender-segregated public unions (aka SS&quot;M&quot;).  

Homosexuality in marriage is a non-issue, in a society where we do not discriminate based on sexual orientation.  That is how we maintain equal treatment for all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>" you don't want them to have the same civil right to marriage that you have"</p>
<p>David in Houston will be pleased to know that NOM supports the rights homosexuals ALREADY have to get married to the opposite-sexed person of their choice; the same privilege granted to ALL Americans, regardless of sexual orientation.  Lest David confuses this with homosexual discrimination, he can pause and consider that not all opposite-sexed couples are eligible for marriage, such as siblings, and that not all same-sexed couples are homosexual, nor do all same-sexed couples qualify for a marriage license, even in states with gender-segregated public unions (aka SS"M").  </p>
<p>Homosexuality in marriage is a non-issue, in a society where we do not discriminate based on sexual orientation.  That is how we maintain equal treatment for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Daughter of Eve</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67859</link>
		<dc:creator>Daughter of Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;by any means&quot;

Does that include endorsing violent criminal behavior against those with an opposing viewpoint?  If so, that&#039;s a hate-crime.  What about tolerance?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"by any means"</p>
<p>Does that include endorsing violent criminal behavior against those with an opposing viewpoint?  If so, that's a hate-crime.  What about tolerance?</p>
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		<title>By: Louis E.</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67820</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether or not homosexual orientation is curable,neither it nor anything can absolve anyone of the obligation to never engage in homosexual activity.We don&#039;t exempt kleptomaniacs from laws against stealing.

David in Houston,the orphanage is doing evil in allowing the &quot;gay couple&quot; to take the child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not homosexual orientation is curable,neither it nor anything can absolve anyone of the obligation to never engage in homosexual activity.We don't exempt kleptomaniacs from laws against stealing.</p>
<p>David in Houston,the orphanage is doing evil in allowing the "gay couple" to take the child.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67808</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EvolveAlready - The reason why it never made it into the mainstream media was, Because there was and still isnt any evidence the teacher made that kind of statement......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EvolveAlready - The reason why it never made it into the mainstream media was, Because there was and still isnt any evidence the teacher made that kind of statement......</p>
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		<title>By: TC Matthews</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67800</link>
		<dc:creator>TC Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BREAKING NEWS:  6% of black people wake up white!  Sorry, doesn&#039;t happen.  Even Michael Jackson couldn&#039;t do it.  Immutable is immutable.  Gay isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BREAKING NEWS:  6% of black people wake up white!  Sorry, doesn't happen.  Even Michael Jackson couldn't do it.  Immutable is immutable.  Gay isn't.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekah</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67797</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Could the same thing happen to the party of Ronald Reagan?&quot;  Wasn&#039;t it Reagan who passed the first &quot;no fault divorce,&quot; which is actually in direct contradiction with bible believers?  The battle for the heart and soul of marriage waged long before this &quot;anti-gay marriage&quot; fiasco when &quot;Christians&quot; began paving the way for this movement by indiscriminate and unbiblical (no fault) divorce and requisite unbiblical remarriage (adultery). Immorality (adultery) is immorality (homosexuality).  As TRUE Christians, we need to start doing it right first . . . or we do run the risk of being hypocrites!  Furthermore, many claim that our religious liberty is being threatened with these turn of events (gay marriage).  &quot;Religious liberty&quot; disappeared long ago . . . it is not just now being threatened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Could the same thing happen to the party of Ronald Reagan?"  Wasn't it Reagan who passed the first "no fault divorce," which is actually in direct contradiction with bible believers?  The battle for the heart and soul of marriage waged long before this "anti-gay marriage" fiasco when "Christians" began paving the way for this movement by indiscriminate and unbiblical (no fault) divorce and requisite unbiblical remarriage (adultery). Immorality (adultery) is immorality (homosexuality).  As TRUE Christians, we need to start doing it right first . . . or we do run the risk of being hypocrites!  Furthermore, many claim that our religious liberty is being threatened with these turn of events (gay marriage).  "Religious liberty" disappeared long ago . . . it is not just now being threatened.</p>
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		<title>By: Daughter of Eve</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67794</link>
		<dc:creator>Daughter of Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could this former student provide proof of such a statement?  

Roberto will be pleased to know that all citizens already enjoy all rights and privileges granted to all citizens, regardless of their sexual orientation, as behooves a society which exercises blind justice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this former student provide proof of such a statement?  </p>
<p>Roberto will be pleased to know that all citizens already enjoy all rights and privileges granted to all citizens, regardless of their sexual orientation, as behooves a society which exercises blind justice.</p>
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		<title>By: David in Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67787</link>
		<dc:creator>David in Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Respect for life, marriage and religious liberty...&quot; -- Apparently, those words only apply to straight people. You don&#039;t respect the lives of gay Americans; you don&#039;t want them to have the same civil right to marriage that you have; and you don&#039;t want churches that support marriage equality to have the liberty of acting out on their beliefs.

I find it hilarious that you&#039;re actually promoting the idea that sexual orientation is a choice. That ship sailed decades ago; and that study has already been debunked on Box Turtle Bulletin. A 6% success rate is hardly anything to crow about. The funny thing is, the only people that keep making this absurd claim are religious straight people. I wonder why that is?

&quot;It will crash against the rock that truth does exist, human nature does exist, and children do need their mother and father.&quot; -- No one has claimed otherwise. Human nature has shown that homosexuality has existed throughout history. It also exists in the animal kingdom. Hopefully you don&#039;t think two gay penguins represent &quot;the will to evil&quot;. If children are fortunate enough to have a mother and father, that&#039;s great. Of course, there is no guarantee that the child&#039;s will be loved or taken care of properly. But that&#039;s not your concern, as long as the child has a mom and a dad it&#039;s all good. 20 million children are raised by a single-parent. Some children are raised by grand-parents, or step-parents; and some children that were abandoned by their biological parents have been adopted by gay couples. So who exactly is &quot;the will to evil&quot; in that scenario? The gay couple that rescued the child from an orphanage, or the biological parents that discarded the child?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Respect for life, marriage and religious liberty..." -- Apparently, those words only apply to straight people. You don't respect the lives of gay Americans; you don't want them to have the same civil right to marriage that you have; and you don't want churches that support marriage equality to have the liberty of acting out on their beliefs.</p>
<p>I find it hilarious that you're actually promoting the idea that sexual orientation is a choice. That ship sailed decades ago; and that study has already been debunked on Box Turtle Bulletin. A 6% success rate is hardly anything to crow about. The funny thing is, the only people that keep making this absurd claim are religious straight people. I wonder why that is?</p>
<p>"It will crash against the rock that truth does exist, human nature does exist, and children do need their mother and father." -- No one has claimed otherwise. Human nature has shown that homosexuality has existed throughout history. It also exists in the animal kingdom. Hopefully you don't think two gay penguins represent "the will to evil". If children are fortunate enough to have a mother and father, that's great. Of course, there is no guarantee that the child's will be loved or taken care of properly. But that's not your concern, as long as the child has a mom and a dad it's all good. 20 million children are raised by a single-parent. Some children are raised by grand-parents, or step-parents; and some children that were abandoned by their biological parents have been adopted by gay couples. So who exactly is "the will to evil" in that scenario? The gay couple that rescued the child from an orphanage, or the biological parents that discarded the child?</p>
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		<title>By: Sw</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67784</link>
		<dc:creator>Sw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We dont have any prove he said that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We dont have any prove he said that.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis E.</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67778</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friends don&#039;t let friends do things like drive drunk or think anything can be more important to a marriage than the partners being of opposite sexes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends don't let friends do things like drive drunk or think anything can be more important to a marriage than the partners being of opposite sexes!</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67755</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Christians forget that not everyone needs to have a group to hate in order to feel good about themselves. Many of us actually have gay friends and colleagues, and want them to have the same rights we straight people have!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Christians forget that not everyone needs to have a group to hate in order to feel good about themselves. Many of us actually have gay friends and colleagues, and want them to have the same rights we straight people have!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Tidmus</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67754</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Tidmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a load of s***. You marriage Nazis need to be stopped by any means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of s***. You marriage Nazis need to be stopped by any means.</p>
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		<title>By: a.a.m.</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67752</link>
		<dc:creator>a.a.m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If those who agree with marriage equality defended Buell, then how can he be considered a &quot;victim&quot; of their supposed &quot;intolerance?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those who agree with marriage equality defended Buell, then how can he be considered a "victim" of their supposed "intolerance?"</p>
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		<title>By: EvolveAlready</title>
		<link>http://www.nomblog.com/14291/comment-page-1#comment-67748</link>
		<dc:creator>EvolveAlready</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This never made mainstream news, but in an interview with a former gay student of Buell&#039;s, it was reported Jerry Buell once said he supported gays in the military so we could put them on the front lines and pull everyone else back.  Sounds like a terrific person to be teaching young children - advocating mass extermination of brave soldiers - very Christian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This never made mainstream news, but in an interview with a former gay student of Buell's, it was reported Jerry Buell once said he supported gays in the military so we could put them on the front lines and pull everyone else back.  Sounds like a terrific person to be teaching young children - advocating mass extermination of brave soldiers - very Christian!</p>
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