Comments on: BIG WIN FOR MARRIAGE IN N.C.! Senate Votes to Let the People Vote on Marriage in 2012!

By: Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:51:06 +0000

Roberto has said elsewhere in these pages:
There is no "right" to vote on the civil rights of minority groups!

Mr. Incredible asks:
When were those who claim to be homosexual officially designated a "minority" group?

In Bakke, SCOTUS, in 1978, said that groups have no Rights, that only individuals do.

There is no discrimination in a law that defines "marriage" as the union of a man, as husband, and a woman, as his wife, given that EVERYBODY is either male/man, or female/woman. EVERYBODY is included.

By: Mantronikk

Mantronikk — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:49:30 +0000

The one-man-one-woman definition of marriage comes from God Himself in Matthew 19:4-6. People are starting to see the ugliness of homofascism and beginning to defend themselves. Any government/culture has the right to define marriage and people are starting to see the difference between skin color and sexual behavior.

By: John Noe

John Noe — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:58:48 +0000

Congradulations to the Tar Heel state. We know that the sky is Carolina blue just like they know that marriage is between one man and one woman.

By: Louis E.

Louis E. — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:12:36 +0000

Bruce,until people started abusing the Constitution to give same-sex sexual relationships protections profoundly harmful to the general welfare,nobody dreamed it would be necessary to spell out at the constitutional level that they were not "equal" to opposite-sex relationships!

By: Randy E King

Randy E King — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:07:45 +0000

In Bruces Alice in Wonderland world 44 or 46 States standing in unity in opposition to marriage corruption is frivolous.

By: catholicdad

catholicdad — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 01:06:21 +0000

Bruce: Please believe me when I tell you we are anything but frivolous.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:53:46 +0000

Yes, Article 5 of the Constitution provides for a consitutional convention when/if two-thirds of the states want one. But no constitutional convention has ever been convened by this method. So far, all the amendments were first proposed by Congress, then ratified by three-fourths of the states. Needless to say, the framers didn't want the Constitution to be amended frivilously.

By: Louis E.

Louis E. — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:18:53 +0000

Isn't the primary at which the vote is scheduled for all offices in both parties,not just a Republican presidential nomination?

By: catholicdad

catholicdad — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:00:47 +0000

Bruce:

2/3 gets us the convention.

Five states more and we have the ratification.

Lookin' good!

By: catholicdad

catholicdad — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:48:42 +0000

Bruce: 2/3 gets it to the convention.

One step at a time.

Interesting point though....now that we have 2/3, we only need five more states to have the 3/4 necessary for ratification and adoption.

Time to bear down and win big in Minnesota and North Carolina!

By: Mike P.

Mike P. — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:00:01 +0000

Evo- did you follow the debate in NC at all? When it was originally proposed, it was on the November ballot, but then it was moved because some Democrats were afraid it would harm their chances to win. You, no doubt, would have claimed that it was a ploy by the GOP to juice up conservative turnout in 2012 if it was on the November ballot. Everyone is allowed to vote in the May primary. You guys keep claiming a majority supports you- why don't they show up to vote?

By: TC Matthews

TC Matthews — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:31:22 +0000

Evo... I thought you were all about equality? Isn't one voter equal to another? They ought to have a say, not just the ones in black robes or who hang out at the capitol building.

By: TC Matthews

TC Matthews — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:28:39 +0000

Excellent news!

By: Evo

Evo — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:19:14 +0000

Wow, first they try and muzzle public debate with a sneaky House vote and then they put it on the May ballot. Fantastically unfair - how many Dems are going to show up for a Republican primary vote?

Enjoy being bullies while you can NOM followers. It won't last much longer, despite how hard they'd like to keep you in this bigoted, little bubble.

And stop thanking God. The will of the majority is being imposed on a minority. No just God would support this.

By: SC Guy

SC Guy — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:33:02 +0000

Mike P. makes a good point. The funny thing is that the liberals, terrified that a November ballot initiative could bring more Christian conservatives to the polls, opted instead for the May primary (which is expected to be dominated by the GOP primary). This means that gay marriage will likely be banned by a lopsided margin. The problem for the Dems is that things are going so bad in the country they'll probably lose in November in a right-leaning state like NC anyway.

By: Mike P.

Mike P. — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:29:09 +0000

Bruce- there has been much talk about how much public opinion has shifted. We all know about how much this has been said, and how frequently words like 'seismic' have been used. We will now have a chance to see how, in a swing state, the people feel about marriage.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:48:27 +0000

"and my oh my aren't we closing in on that magical 2/3 supermajority for a constitutional amendment" Actually, according to Article 5 of the Constitution, three-fourths of the states would need to ratify a proposed consitutional amendment in order for it to pass.

By: catholicdad

catholicdad — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:33:58 +0000

Yessssssssssss!!!!!!!

And Minnesota makes thirty two.........

And North Carolina makes thirty three........

and my oh my aren't we closing in on that magical 2/3 supermajority for a constitutional amendment

By: Barb

Barb — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:23:08 +0000

w00t! Haven't been this pleased since MN put their amendment on the ballot. Kudos to NOM, the citizens of NC and the wise legislators who understand that only the people have the right to define marriage!

By: SC Guy

SC Guy — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:46:58 +0000

And speaking of NY - perhaps more victories for traditional marriage are still in the offing. The day is yet young and pro-SSM Weprin from the intensely sleazy Weiner's district looks set to lose to pro-traditional marriage Bob Turner tonight. Sounds good!

By: SC Guy

SC Guy — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:45:43 +0000

Thank the Good Lord! This is great news and another HUGE victory for morality. Just put a spring in my step!! Take that NY!!!