Comments on: Rules, schmules: Larsen doesn't care http://www.nomblog.com/136/ The official blog of the National Organization for Marriage Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:57:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Mae http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5328 Mae Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:13:22 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5328 I don't think he did check, I think he just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded good, because if he actually read the holy word, he'd know better what it was about. Using the old testament to bash Christians is an old old game Jeffrey. Older than you. It hasn't worked yet. Thanks NOM for all you're doing! Keep it up! I don't think he did check, I think he just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded good, because if he actually read the holy word, he'd know better what it was about. Using the old testament to bash Christians is an old old game Jeffrey. Older than you. It hasn't worked yet.

Thanks NOM for all you're doing! Keep it up!

]]> By: Salome Johnson http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5217 Salome Johnson Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:09:27 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5217 <em>“Supporters of same-sex marriage talk all day long about fairness. But to get their bill through, they intentionally violated Senate rules written to guarantee minority approval of controversial legislation. Gov. John Lynch ought to veto the bill for that reason alone. A matter as divisive as this should pass into law by force of persuasion, not by sleight of hand.”</em> That’s the best quote I’ve heard in this thing yet. That’s right. If we’re going to make a change in social policy, let’s do it above board. All the way. “Supporters of same-sex marriage talk all day long about fairness. But to get their bill through, they intentionally violated Senate rules written to guarantee minority approval of controversial legislation. Gov. John Lynch ought to veto the bill for that reason alone. A matter as divisive as this should pass into law by force of persuasion, not by sleight of hand.”

That’s the best quote I’ve heard in this thing yet. That’s right. If we’re going to make a change in social policy, let’s do it above board. All the way.

]]> By: Marc http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5204 Marc Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:48:51 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5204 From letters to NH paper: Even a mildly informed State House observer would be aware that every NH senate president has done exactly the same for the past two dozen years including the UL's candidate for mayor of Manchester, Ted Gatsas. Removal of a member unwilling to support the senate position in a committee of conference is nothing unusual or special to this particular legislation. The readers of the UL deserve factual information, not manufactured talking points from out of state operatives. An apology to Senator Larsen is in order. - Ray Buckley, Manchester She didn't break the rules. One of her powers as senate president is to freely appoint and remove members from committees for any reason she wants. Is this unfair? Sure is. Is it against the rules? Nope. - John, Plymouth From letters to NH paper:

Even a mildly informed State House observer would be aware that every NH senate president has done exactly the same for the past two dozen years including the UL's candidate for mayor of Manchester, Ted Gatsas. Removal of a member unwilling to support the senate position in a committee of conference is nothing unusual or special to this particular legislation.

The readers of the UL deserve factual information, not manufactured talking points from out of state operatives.

An apology to Senator Larsen is in order.
- Ray Buckley, Manchester

She didn't break the rules. One of her powers as senate president is to freely appoint and remove members from committees for any reason she wants. Is this unfair? Sure is. Is it against the rules? Nope.
- John, Plymouth

]]> By: Chairm http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5183 Chairm Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:11:14 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5183 Perry, when was the last time you checked? And please describe the manner in which you did this supposed checking. Thanks. Perry, when was the last time you checked? And please describe the manner in which you did this supposed checking. Thanks.

]]> By: Adam http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5175 Adam Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:11:16 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5175 Perry, I take issue with your statement. "Half". Come on, not even close. If so then show the numbers please. Being listed in the Bible doesn't make one perfect. Many great leaders have risen and fallen. I believe that current marriage laws do not apply to bible times. If you want to apply law in past times. then go hide because the sodomy laws would have you locked up. I am curious though if you do believe in the bible. What is your take on the Sodom and Gomorrah? If you don't believe in the Bible then just dismiss the question. Perry,
I take issue with your statement. "Half". Come on, not even close. If so then show the numbers please. Being listed in the Bible doesn't make one perfect. Many great leaders have risen and fallen. I believe that current marriage laws do not apply to bible times. If you want to apply law in past times. then go hide because the sodomy laws would have you locked up.
I am curious though if you do believe in the bible. What is your take on the Sodom and Gomorrah? If you don't believe in the Bible then just dismiss the question.

]]> By: Perry http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5162 Perry Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:30:57 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5162 Marie Lennae, Last time I checked half of the characters in the Bible (Solomon, for example) married their sisters, raped women and then married them, married more than one wife, married a slave, and married concubines. Are they all "fools" as well? Marie Lennae,

Last time I checked half of the characters in the Bible (Solomon, for example) married their sisters, raped women and then married them, married more than one wife, married a slave, and married concubines.

Are they all "fools" as well?

]]> By: Marie Lennae http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5074 Marie Lennae Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:24:45 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5074 Rand, it makes sense to attack religion. If you read the bible, it reads like a crystal ball as much as a history book. After digesting a few of these threads, it really hits home, especially the common sense part: <em>"although they claimed to be wise, they became fools... Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a ... lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator... Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. in the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion... Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them." - Romans 1:22-32</em> Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools....that's the only way to explain the rejection of common sense. If the writer of this verse saw our day clearly he couldn't have written more truly. That's got to be intimidating to the opposition, and yet they claim that the bible endorses homosexuality. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.... justifying their actions. Rand, it makes sense to attack religion. If you read the bible, it reads like a crystal ball as much as a history book. After digesting a few of these threads, it really hits home, especially the common sense part:

"although they claimed to be wise, they became fools... Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a ... lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator... Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. in the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion... Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them." - Romans 1:22-32

Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools....that's the only way to explain the rejection of common sense. If the writer of this verse saw our day clearly he couldn't have written more truly. That's got to be intimidating to the opposition, and yet they claim that the bible endorses homosexuality. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.... justifying their actions.

]]> By: Rand http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5072 Rand Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:17:09 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5072 Adam, the anti religious vitriol from the activist gay movement is staggering. I can't imagine religious freedom is held in high esteem in these circles. Lie, Cheat, Steal, what is next? Adam, the anti religious vitriol from the activist gay movement is staggering. I can't imagine religious freedom is held in high esteem in these circles. Lie, Cheat, Steal, what is next?

]]> By: Adam http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5061 Adam Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:49:26 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5061 What do you think of NOM's argument that civil unions tend to be stepping stones. I for one am for rights. But then I got to looking back at the record and I think NOM has a point. Things like accepting gays marriages from other states, divorces gay marriage and cases like that are catapaults to gay marriage. I believe that is why NOM is trying not to give an inch because it will turn into alot more space. So to be fair, you have to agree that this isn't the end. I doubt that the religious protections will last. Gay marriage will eventually I believe over take the religious freedoms. Just look at the pattern. First gay marriage overcame sodomy laws. then got civil unions, then adoption, now gay marriage. Whats next? Religious Freedom is my bet. What do you think of NOM's argument that civil unions tend to be stepping stones. I for one am for rights. But then I got to looking back at the record and I think NOM has a point. Things like accepting gays marriages from other states, divorces gay marriage and cases like that are catapaults to gay marriage. I believe that is why NOM is trying not to give an inch because it will turn into alot more space. So to be fair, you have to agree that this isn't the end. I doubt that the religious protections will last. Gay marriage will eventually I believe over take the religious freedoms. Just look at the pattern. First gay marriage overcame sodomy laws. then got civil unions, then adoption, now gay marriage. Whats next? Religious Freedom is my bet.

]]> By: the pomegranate apple http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5023 the pomegranate apple Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:18:00 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5023 That situation drives me so crazy. The senator removed introduced two ideas, one was a call for a voter referendum which was dismissed without discussion. I love how the opposition is so afraid of discussion. Using "rights" as a reason to silence voices, even though marriage has always been exclusive tons of classes of people including siblings, cousins, business partnerships are already denied their "right" to marry. How can the governor sign that legislation? That situation drives me so crazy. The senator removed introduced two ideas, one was a call for a voter referendum which was dismissed without discussion.

I love how the opposition is so afraid of discussion. Using "rights" as a reason to silence voices, even though marriage has always been exclusive tons of classes of people including siblings, cousins, business partnerships are already denied their "right" to marry.

How can the governor sign that legislation?

]]> By: Larry http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5016 Larry Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:07:07 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5016 Do post here-A Declaration On Marriage-it's at the Website williamgairdner.com / William D. Gairdner has a earned Ph.d-degrees in philosophy and literature,is a former Olympic Athlete and a best selling author of several books in Canada. At the Website check the Essays section for-A Declaration On Marriage!!. Do post here-A Declaration On Marriage-it's at the Website williamgairdner.com / William D. Gairdner has a earned Ph.d-degrees in philosophy and literature,is a former Olympic Athlete and a best selling author of several books in Canada. At the Website check the Essays section for-A Declaration On Marriage!!.

]]> By: scottslant http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5013 scottslant Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:41:13 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5013 Sadly, I'm not surprised. We now live in a political culture of corruption that goes all the way to the President. Sadly, I'm not surprised. We now live in a political culture of corruption that goes all the way to the President.

]]> By: beetlebabee http://www.nomblog.com/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5002 beetlebabee Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:56:23 +0000 http://nomblog.com/?p=136#comment-5002 Typical! Just like in New Hampshire. The arm twisting, rule-bending, intimidation continues. How is this representative of true democracy or even republic representation? Typical! Just like in New Hampshire. The arm twisting, rule-bending, intimidation continues. How is this representative of true democracy or even republic representation?

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