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Reversing SSM in New York: The Campaign Begins

 

Reverse SSM in New York

What can you do to restore marriage in New York?

The secretive, "emergency" process by which same-sex marriage was brought to New York last Friday night has left many outraged—even some supporters of same-sex marriage. It also made one thing abundantly clear: in order to change policy on marriage, we're going to have to change personnel in Albany—starting with the turncoat senators who made promises their constituents on marriage and then voted the opposite way.

We've committed to spending at least $2 million to elect pro-marriage majorities in the 2012 elections. But in order to do that we need your help. We'll have much more to share in the days ahead, but today, the single most important thing you can do is to make a generous contribution to NOM PAC NY. Will you stand with us today?

Like you, we're incredibly disappointed—and frustrated—at both the procedure and especially the outcome in New York last week. I still find it unfathomable that Republicans thought they would benefit from handing Governor Cuomo a victory that his own party couldn't achieve when they were in the majority.

The ugly details of the process by which same-sex marriage came to New York is still coming to light. Here's how the Gotham Gazette describes it:

Essentially the Senate rules were changed in a backroom agreement before session started and then changed again during the vote to make sure it would be concluded to make the 11 p.m. newscasts.

Sen. Kevin Parker, a long time proponent of same-sex marriage, was informed by Senate staff that he would not be able to explain his vote. He was livid. He cursed out the governor and eventually stormed to the podium where Duffy was presiding—a number of other Democratic senators followed him, seemingly to calm him down.

Earlier when Sen. Ruben Diaz tried to lay the marriage bill aside he was ignored. Normal Senate procedure allows for any senator to lay a bill aside for debate. It gives legislators a chance to debate the bill then when they vote, they again have the chance to explain their vote. But the rules weren't the same. . . .

After realizing he would not be allowed to speak despite his protests, Parker tried to leave the floor. The door he tried to exit was locked. Earlier Duffy had asked the crowd not to leave the chamber during the vote. Cuomo's people—staff and security—had been in and out of the side door locking and unlocking it all during the debate. At one point a man wearing an ear piece emerged and surveyed the route Cuomo would take. When Parker tried to leave the door was locked again.

"I go to the door, and I tried to leave, and they had us locked in. I tried to leave, and they had us locked on to the floor," Parker said. Finally he made it out of the chamber. "One sergeant of arms physically grabbed me. I was appalled. I'm a senator." Parker then made his way through an ante chamber. "A plain clothes cop and secretary tried to close the door again," he explains, trying to block his exit. "I've never seen a member treated in such a manner. I've never seen white member treated that way," Parker, who is black, said. He was again also confronted by another sergeant of arms.

The bill was declared an emergency—allowing them to introduce new religious liberty language just hours before the vote, instead of the usual 3 days. The rules were changed again while the vote was taking place—and even senators treated shamefully, essentially locked on the floor of the Senate—and why? So Governor Cuomo could make the 11 o'clock news.

It's high time for change in Albany.

A constitutional amendment in New York requires approval from the legislature in two successive legislatures—and does not require the governor's signature—before going to the voters for final approval.

We're putting together a 4-year campaign strategy that will reverse same-sex marriage in New York. We'll have many more details, and ways for you to get involved, in the days ahead but the overall plan will have three phases:

PHASE 1:
Elect pro-marriage majorities next November that will approve a marriage amendment in both the Assembly and Senate during the 2013 legislative session.

PHASE 2:
Protect pro-marriage candidates in the 2014 elections, so that the amendment can receive final legislative approval in the 2015 legislative session.

PHASE 3:
Successfully pass the ballot measure when it goes before voters in November 2015.

A 4-year process seems like a long time—and it is—but it's achievable. In New Hampshire and Iowa, they've had same-sex marriage for just 2 years, but are already well on the way to reversal. The key to success is electing legislative majorities who will answer to the people of their state, and not to special interests.

Tim Gill, the Human Rights Campaign and their allies are already promising millions to defend Republican senators who voted for same-sex marriage. But we've successfully defeated every pro-ssm Republican we've ever targeted, and I'm convinced we can do so again. We don't have to match Tim Gill dollar for dollar—but we do need resources to make sure voters remember how they were betrayed on marriage. Republican primary voters are strongly pro-marriage, and don't take kindly to politicians who say one thing and then do another.

Will you stand with us today? Your gift of $49, $99, or even $999 or more, will be the first step toward reclaiming New York from the special interests and backroom deals that resulted in same-sex marriage last Friday night. Give a gift for marriage, for transparency, and for New Yorkers' right to vote!

Then stay tuned for more to come in the days ahead—and tell your friends to join us as we launch this campaign to reclaim marriage in New York!

40 Comments

  1. ConservativeNY
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Brian!

    As a New Yorker, I was very disappointed, to say the least, with the passage of his bill. I had even considered moving to Ohio, a state where they respect the true meaning of marriage.

    But this gives me new hope for the future, and I will definitely be staying in New York to contribute my votes to restore marriage - and sanity, to my beloved home state.

  2. Dan
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    >>The key to success is electing legislative majorities who will answer to the people of their state, and not to special interests.

    Yes, but how do we know we'll be able to trust them anymore than the current trait-, er, I mean legislators who turned on us for the payoffs?

  3. Drew
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Brian -

    You and NOM are special interests. You are lobbyists fighting on behalf of people who think we live in a theocracy.

    Your four-year plan is over before it even got started.

  4. KevinMich
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    The people of the state wants equal rights for gay people. What "special interests", besides NOM, are you talking about?

  5. Dan
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    >>The people of the state wants equal rights for gay people.

    If that were true, there would not have been the need for the usual threats, harassment and intimidation.

  6. Posted June 28, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    We will prevail, just as we did in Utah and Maine.

  7. Jim T.
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Throwing good money after bad.

  8. DJ
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Kevin Mich where do you get your facts from, NOM is not special interest, Marriage was also about male and female, NOM is trying to STOP politians from change the practice of MArriage to include homosexuality behavior , gay marriage, which ia about gay sex. Marriage is not about sex or how you use you penis or vigina, its about love female and investing in a family. Gay people want to live under the same unbrella, whether then create their own... Actually that can they would have the same rights as everyone else to marriage the opposite sex instead of asking for special rights from crocket politicians.

  9. DJ
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    NOM are you posting my COMM, I am a Support?

  10. DJ
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    NOM, where are comments, I am your support...?

  11. DJ
    Posted June 28, 2011 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    He there is a lot wee can accomplish until then, like amending the federal constitution, there is a lot we can accomplish, but support the plan people, othgerwise the opposition will exploit this was weakness...

  12. SC Guy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Aren't there any other ways to reverse it than through the same legislature that heaped this nonsense on NY? I know that in Maryland there is a people's veto kind of thing but I take it, it doesn't exist in NY? I don't mean to sound skeptical but this does sound a bit long-winded for a state like NY.

  13. Jason
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Brilliant! Just Brilliant!!!.........

  14. Dan
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    NOM, what's going on there? I'm a supporter and yet can rarely post anything.

  15. Dan
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    The homosexual movement was as vicious as ever. Sen. Shirley Huntley, a Democrat from Queens, we are told is "a strong Christian lady" who supported traditional marriage. Then homosexual activists picketed outside her house, stalked her, and harassed her obsessively. Finally, she gave up and supported the bill. http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/11b/ny_marriage/analysis.html

  16. Dorothy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    The goal of defeating the New York state senators who voted against marriage after promising to uphold it is very worthy in my opinion.

    This simple step by voters is a good way to express an opinion when one has not been given the opportunity to vote directly about an issue.

    Plus, it will cause politicians to think twice about failing to honor their promises to voters!

  17. Dan
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Ok, so one line comments will go through. Terrible way of doing things...

  18. Dan
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Are you not allowing links on this page? That'd be odd as I managed to post some links on another page previously. We need to be able to cite sources and to do that, we need to be able to include links to those sources.

  19. Stephen
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    NOM's days in New York may be over but Brian and Maggie are really going to cash in on this. Are we aware that NOM doesn't have a physical office? Merely an address in Princeton?

    When will you release your financial statements? Oh and by the way, I called the senators, Dean Skelos and the governor to thank them.

    A great day for New York.

  20. SC Guy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Are there any other ways to get traditional marriage back in NY short of lawsuits?

  21. SC Guy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    A couple of the latest polls on gay marriage (although polling is only of so much value of course!):

    - A Quinnipiac University poll out today shows that Virginia opposes same-sex marriage: 52%-41% (but sadly support gay adoption 51%-43%)

    - A PPP poll the other day found Oregonians supporting gay marriage 48%-42% (essentially a tie in polling)

  22. A.W.
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Gay activists here keep claiming that this one narrow defeat is somehow the end of the cause in general and NOM in particular, which is downright silly. Most states have voted against gay marriage, the public in most states is still against it, and this has not changed due to one very narrow vote in New York - especially since so many political maneuvers were required to pass it at all. If anything, this case is serving as a wake-up call which is galvanizing opposition to the sodomy lobby. It certainly has had that effect on me.

  23. yohance brown
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Why is Sen Majority Leader Dean Skelos not on this list? Is he not seeking reelection in 2012?

  24. Northwestperson
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    LOL Brian, you are really grasping at straws. You mean to tell us that we need to continue to hand you and Maggie money so you can strip away rights from people 4 years after the fact? LoL

  25. AnonyGrl
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Then, Pinkie, in 2016, we take over the WORLD! Mwah ah ah ah ah!

  26. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    NOM, I think we can think of some legal issues to pursue while we wait, lets keep the Dems on their toes,, look me up!

  27. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Why not include ex-gays to your crusade? there is a greate website on the internet claming 1000 each year are become exhomos... this will help your, our cause tremedously!

  28. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    why not create a mirror for gays people to look at by recruiting exgays to your rallys, tours, staff to take surveys, I would pay you to staff these people...And I'm sure your supporters would too... lets get the EX-gays out of the closet so to speak and on the frontlines to help save their country....

  29. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    lets get these people in washington, DC, lets get them supporting our candidates for Presidents, let them be heard. I have read some unbelievable stories on the internet from ex-gays and how they talk about goverment conspiracies on the issue, and how gays are living a lie, and the true politices behind the notion that you were burn gay. These are the people that are going to help make real and permenant changes in the socall gay and lesbian movement,community...

  30. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Ultimately terminating the word Gay or Lesbian, or Homosexual, because when you give a thing, a person, a place, a behavior a name, it becomes that name and producing more of it,... this is scientifically true...

  31. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    After thorough readying this websites mission, and viewing some of the real video testimonies from ex-gays, I com to the conclusion that, this would be a perfect site to sponsor or endorse, or at least consider as part of NOM's mission to liberate those people from their delusion, and selfishness about lust love, and marriage...

  32. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    I com to the conclusion that, this would be a perfect site to sponsor or endorse, or at least consider as part of NOM's mission to liberate those people from their delusion, and selfishness about lust love, and marriage...

  33. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Im sure their are other sites like this one...this site also talk about SSM.

    http://pfox.org/default.html

  34. DJ
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    I think our your supporter including gay supporter, those eho are not gay but sense the need to help so-called the underdog should read the ABOUT US section of the Website I referenced to in my last posted message.

  35. frank keen
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Their is one way this can all be settled, once and for all,.....the answer is simple,.....give all the Gays Civil Unions in every state with the same exact benifits as marriage , this issue cannot keep going, it needs to be resolved,....and the only way is to come to a compromise,.....their is no such way that all the states are going to adopt Gay Marriige. Its just not going to happen. This way the gays can visit their partners and be covered,.....and the states that have constitution ammendments, would have to lift them and accept ''Civil Gay Unions''.....Rhode Island,just adapted to Civil Unions.recently.

  36. Grand Rabbi Naftuli Flohr
    Posted July 1, 2011 at 2:10 am | Permalink

    Grand Rabbi Naftali Flohr chief rabbi of United Jewish communities said New York State attacked and abused by the New York State legislators by legalizing same sex marriage. We will vote out all the senators who represent the Jewish communities who voted for same sex marriage bill. The Torah say that Sodom was destroyed for legalizing homosexuality. That means that the State of New York is in grave danger. We have to fight the same sex marriage and we will fight it. I have already 4000 petitions signed against same sex marriage

  37. bman
    Posted July 1, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    @Dan Are you not allowing links on this page?

    I noticed the system is more restrictive than it used to be.

    It seems they added rules that limit how many postings one can have in a thread or since they last posted in the entire system, along with length of post, trigger words, links, etc.

    Since June 29 about ten posts of mine have been dropped.

    My guess is they had to put the system on autopilot.

  38. patrick lehman
    Posted July 5, 2011 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    As long as the state continues to "bless" partnerships, this is going to be an issue. NOM is going to lose this fight, because it is seen as a religious/morality based organization trying to dictate what an increasing number of people believe to be a civil right.

    If the exemptions are granted to religious institutions, no one cares if NOM disapproves. You are all wasting your money by funding these losing battles. You would better serve your faith by helping the hungry, poor and the sick, about whose care Jesus was quite specific.

  39. Chairm
    Posted July 9, 2011 at 1:38 am | Permalink

    The marriage idea is not dependant on religion, patrick, but the SSM idea is dependant on the quasi-religious leap of faith in the supremacy of gay identity politics.

    What sustains the special status of marriage is the core meaning of the social institution: integration of the sexes, provision for responsible procreation, and these combined as a coherent whole.

    The SSM idea does not merit special status in the first place. But it is imposed as a replacement for the marriage idea; it is imposed by way of abolishing the special reason for the special status of marriage. All that props up the SSM idea is the dangerous combination of 1) arbitrary government power and 2) the assertion of the supremacy of gay identity politics.

    Item 1 stands against the principles of good governance that justify the authority of those who govern.

    Item 2 stands against the purpose that we the people enacted the form of government under which all levels and branches of government are restrained.

    The social institution of marriage has withstood such threats and hazards for millennia -- even if there have been huge social, moral, and personal costs as a result of such perils to marriage.

    SSMers would set government against religions and religious people. That, too, has many examples in human history where truth prevailed even in the face of such injustice.

    SSMers have yet to justify the imposition of SSM; they have yet to justify the costs that will be paid by society. They simply deny all concerns as subordinate to gay identity politics. They cannot do otherwise without abandoning the goal of imposing this version of nonmarriage on all of society. So they cling to the corruptive influence of the SSM campaign as somehow a version of unjust means justifying a just end. But that entails a further denial -- the SSM imposition is itself an unjust end.

    The SSM campaign is delusional on this. Standing on the firm ground of reason and respect for human dignity means that marriage defenders have a higher standard to meet when responding to setbacks. But as NOM has shown before, such setbacks need not be permanent. SSMers will underestimate the authority of truth because their political loyalty lies with an obvious untruth.

    SSM is not a form of marriage. It is a form of nonmarriage. Merging SSM with marriage means abolishing what makes marriage, marriage; it is the equivalent of ending the distinction between the marital type of relationship and the nonmarital types of relationships (sexual or otherwise, gay or otherwise, eithical or unethical, and so forth).

  40. Chairm
    Posted July 9, 2011 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    patrick lehman, participation rates in SSM, wherever imposed, have been very, very, very low (and declining).

    So, to use your own notion: to reach the adult homosexual population you would do better to focus on other measures, because SSM is a very poor vehicle for benefiting that subset of the population.

    Besides, there is no specific gay identity requirement for eligibility to SSM under the NY legislature's impostion of SSM in the local laws there. So the pro-SSM legislation is not as specific as perhaps your anti-religious rhetoric would suggest.

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