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NY State Catholic Conference on SSM Passage

 

Released immediately after the vote:

The passage by the Legislature of a bill to alter radically and forever humanity’s historic understanding of marriage leaves us deeply disappointed and troubled.

We strongly uphold the Catholic Church’s clear teaching that we always treat our homosexual brothers and sisters with respect, dignity and love. But we just as strongly affirm that marriage is the joining of one man and one woman in a lifelong, loving union that is open to children, ordered for the good of those children and the spouses themselves. This definition cannot change, though we realize that our beliefs about the nature of marriage will continue to be ridiculed, and that some will even now attempt to enact government sanctions against churches and religious organizations that preach these timeless truths.

We worry that both marriage and the family will be undermined by this tragic presumption of government in passing this legislation that attempts to redefine these cornerstones of civilization.

Our society must regain what it appears to have lost – a true understanding of the meaning and the place of marriage, as revealed by God, grounded in nature, and respected by America’s foundational principles.

22 Comments

  1. Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Tax gay marriages.

    The church has as much right to say that as gay people have to decide to be gay. More, if you ask me.

    What is unreasonable is when the religious freedom of countless people is violated simply because they are standing up for what they believe in. You can choose to do what you want with your life. But you can't force me to accept it.

    The church could be taxed for interfering with maters of state. But sexuality is not a matter of state. It is a matter of personal choice, or, one might say, morality. And morality happens to be a church specialty.

  2. Mike
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Tax the church

  3. John K.
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    Tax the church, and make NOM disclose its donors!

  4. mike
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    Tax ALL churches who interfere in the secular political process when pushing agendas that are based solely on illogical dogma and religious bias instead of empirical, balanced, fact-based information.

  5. Jen
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Shame on the senators who voted against their own platform!

    Maybe I should file a suit with the ACLU on MY side because my religious freedoms are being trampled by a very small minority of the population!

  6. Scott
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 3:06 am | Permalink

    Revenge is so Christian.

  7. iDavid
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 4:04 am | Permalink

    Make religion illegal. It's much worse than prostitution will ever be.

  8. liz
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 4:35 am | Permalink

    If I am a young mother seeking to put my infant out for adoption AND I decide to adopt out to a married couple that contains a man and a woman, I am NOT violating any same-sex couple's civil rights. And if I do it through a Christian adoption agency, that is my right! Marriage is for children -- it is not a privileged status that any union should be able to steal for their own with cries of "I want, I want". It is sad that our world has become so all-encompassingly selfish -- on this and so many issues.

    Please, Catholic Conference, keep your orphanages in New York, continue to operate them according to your beliefs, and bring this question beore the Supreme Court!
    Bless you.

  9. john
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 6:01 am | Permalink

    time for the evangelicals and the tea party to unite against radical intolernt gays and other secular socialists. nom- push for a federal marriage amendment for marriage-one man-one woman.

  10. CuriousGeorge
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    @La Jole - Gay citizens are taxed just as heavily as hetero and bi citizens. I think the point is that (in New York, at least) gay couples who choose to be married will be taxed exactly the same for state taxes as hetero couples who choose to be married. Getting married is the choice here, and under the NY law, both types of couples are treated equally - get it?

  11. A friend of Dorothy's
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    @LaJole, Your acceptance will always be appreciated but never necessary. The Catholic Church just showed not only the state but the possibly the whole world that they were inflexible and unwilling to cooperate. Religious exemptions were made to accommodate you people more than it should and instead you are still not happy. You've won your protections, walk away a winner.

  12. Posted June 25, 2011 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    I fully understand the current taxation, but who said anything about equality? Are they really equal? Well, according to the NYS law they are, but they will never be equal in the sight of God or in the sight of the majority of NYS citizens.

    God ordained heterosexual marriage as a sacred covenant and institution.

    Sinful humans ordained homosexual marriage as an attempt to justify a sinful lifestyle choice.

    Making it legal doesn't make it right.

  13. Geeno
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Again the argument..."being gay is a choice". What an irrational thought. One chooses to do something for beneficial gain. Why would one "choose" a lifestyle that only gets ridiculed and taught that it's a sin. Where's the benefit? Logic tells me, that if it's a choice for anyone, then we are all Bisexual, and we "choose" which way to go....RIGHT??

  14. Kevin in Atlanta
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    The Catholic Church is literally LYING when it claims this law is somehow going to lead to "government sanctions against churches and religious organizations." The Constitution protects them from such a thing. What the Catholic Church and NOM don't seem to get is that the Constitution also protects gay people from having their rights denied for not living according to Catholic doctrine. It's clear, Catholic Church and NOM and other organizations would prefer to spread deliberate LIES than actually deal with reality.

  15. Dave
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Tax the church

  16. Mary
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Gays can manipulate the systems as much as they like, but I will never support the "goodness" of gay sex. It is immoral and has always been immoral. Gays deserve respect as persons, but I find them often hostile, angry and intolerant of those who disagree with their moral attitudes. I think we are entering a time of great persecution if you hold to Catholic teaching.

  17. xkaydet65
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Will homosexual and lesbian activists now lend their support for lifting the bans on polygamy for Muslim and Mormon Americans?They are being denied their choices in marriage as well as their ability to freely practice their religion.As for religious protections rrgarding this law. Watch the parade Sundat as it passes St. Pats.The hatred and anger that will be displayed gaurantees that many in the homosexual and lesbian communities will push the envelope to test those protections and force religious recognition of same sex marriage.Finally,i have no problem with how people deal with sexual preference.My brother in law is homosexual.His partner of 23 years is a friend.They seek no approval from me for their lives and I offer no comment on them.But those seeking SSM ARE asking for my approval as they are asking the body politic for approval.I choose not to give that approval.So now I guess you can sue me.

  18. Craig
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Marriage equality is a canard. It is plainly a deceptive tactic by SSM advocates to impose their gay lifestyle on ordinary citizens and redefine marriage. This is only a temporary setback because culture war will continue. As noted in the article, gay rights movement began in New York. This is confirmed by the gay historian and the founding activist, Thorstad. He proudly maintains that pedophilia and pederasty has been part of gay movement from the beginnning. Thorstad is the founder of NAMBLA ( North American Man Boy Love Association) in the 1960's. The Gay movement is always pandering to exploitive behavior such as pedophilia and pederasty. The duplicity and perversity of gay movement is appalling.

  19. Granger
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    I say the Catholic church needs to ex-communicate all those that favor gay marriage - particularly politicians and ex-communicate them if the are for abortion as well.

  20. Craig
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Marriage equality is a canard. It is plainly a deceptive tactic by SSM advocates to impose their gay lifestyle on ordinary citizens and redefine marriage. This is only a temporary setback because culture war will continue. As noted in the article, gay rights movement began in New York. This is confirmed by the gay historian and the founding activist, Thorstad. He proudly maintains that pedophilia and pederasty has been part of gay movement from the beginnning. Thorstad is the founder of NAMBLA ( North American Man Boy Love Association) in the 1960's. The Gay movement is always pandering to exploitive behavior such as pedophilia and pederasty. The duplicity and perversity of gay movement is appalling.

  21. Cameron Treece
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    "Well, according to the NYS law they are, but they will never be equal in the sight of God or in the sight of the majority of NYS citizens.

    God ordained heterosexual marriage as a sacred covenant and institution.

    Sinful humans ordained homosexual marriage as an attempt to justify a sinful lifestyle choice.

    Making it legal doesn't make it right."

    You have the right to think that, but unfortunately that's not the way it is. If your God doesn't like gay marriage then fine, but keep your religious beliefs to yourself and don't force others to live by your own views. Crying about your religious rights of oppressing others being trampled on will get you no where.

  22. John N.
    Posted June 25, 2011 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Let us not forget that this is entirely unfair to people who are single. Indeed the liberals, progressives, and homosexuals have stabbed us in the back.
    For years and years, singles were told that the benefits to married people not available to singe people was justified because of procreation.
    Research history: The government enacted the marriage license and the benefits to go with it to promote procreation. The offspring were needed to pay the entitlement taxes to support the system. This was the justification to us singles.
    Now SSM is the ultimate fraud and corrupt process. Homosexuals get the tax breaks and benefits for pro creation, purposely not procreate and contribute offspring to pay into the system and yet still get to collect on the entitlements.

    How is this fair to people who are single? It is not.